Asura Design 3" High Flow Cat Mini-review
04-12-2012, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by davidc1' timestamp='1316766299' post='20998272
[quote name='eklipz98' timestamp='1316765805' post='20998261']
[quote name='davidc1' timestamp='1316765560' post='20998257']
[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1295686762' post='20129051']
Allow me to assert a little real talk here: police do not truly understand or even know the laws they're enforcing. do you think a police officer is going to know those silly guidelines for CARB? No. Do you think he's going to get on his hands and knees to check whether a cat is in place or not? No. Do you think he's going to freak out if he popped my hood and sees my K&N intake with its CARB legal sticker? No.
So with all of that in mind, if you've got a high flow cat that doesn't stink or give any outward signs of being modified, do you think its even going to be an issue that's brought up? Think about it. Cops notice the test pipe smell, but they'll automatically assume the car has a (stock) cat if it smells/acts like it does with the Asura HFC. There is absolutely no way to tell without jacking up the car whether or not the car has a stock cat or HFC judging by outward appearances and behaviors.
This is not even a concern. The part is CARB exempt and passes visual inspection, and that's what matters. Not to mention that it'd only be an issue in California.
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[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1295686762' post='20129051']
Originally Posted by Vitt,Jan 22 2011, 01:16 AM
Even if the Asura is CARB approved that doesn't necessarily make it legal for all cars. Car has to be more than 7 years old and have over 70K miles for starters, but there are other requirements as well: here is the complete list: http://www.car-sound...sics/04carb.asp
So with all of that in mind, if you've got a high flow cat that doesn't stink or give any outward signs of being modified, do you think its even going to be an issue that's brought up? Think about it. Cops notice the test pipe smell, but they'll automatically assume the car has a (stock) cat if it smells/acts like it does with the Asura HFC. There is absolutely no way to tell without jacking up the car whether or not the car has a stock cat or HFC judging by outward appearances and behaviors.
This is not even a concern. The part is CARB exempt and passes visual inspection, and that's what matters. Not to mention that it'd only be an issue in California.
Regardless, any smog inspection station will spot it immediately. Many will probably decline to even test you because they won't want to hassle figuring out if the cat is CARB legal.
My experience today was two fold:
1. The first shop instantly failed me, took no money, and refused to test me, telling me I would fail (an honest approach IMO).
2. The second shop did a visual inspection, then proceeded to test my car with the sniffer, then despite passing the emissions, failed me on the visual at the end (a dishonest approach IMO). So basically, I am stuck going back to this place, since they have a free re-test.
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I think it's a little bit of a hassle. From what I understand, even though the CARB number may be stamped on the part, the shop still has to look it up in a book or manual published by the CARB. However, the shop has to buy this book. And, it's expensive. So, if a shop doesn't buy the book, they can't look it up, and therefore won't pass it.
But I'm a bit confused. Why did the second shop fail you on the visual inspection if the part had the CARB number on it?
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It was not a CARB EO number, it was a item/model number.
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Guess what, it is a CARB EO number. STFU. GTFO out of my thread with your misinformation, ma douchie.
04-12-2012, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by eklipz98' timestamp='1316794584' post='20999318
[quote name='davidc1' timestamp='1316766299' post='20998272']
[quote name='eklipz98' timestamp='1316765805' post='20998261']
[quote name='davidc1' timestamp='1316765560' post='20998257']
[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1295686762' post='20129051']
Allow me to assert a little real talk here: police do not truly understand or even know the laws they're enforcing. do you think a police officer is going to know those silly guidelines for CARB? No. Do you think he's going to get on his hands and knees to check whether a cat is in place or not? No. Do you think he's going to freak out if he popped my hood and sees my K&N intake with its CARB legal sticker? No.
So with all of that in mind, if you've got a high flow cat that doesn't stink or give any outward signs of being modified, do you think its even going to be an issue that's brought up? Think about it. Cops notice the test pipe smell, but they'll automatically assume the car has a (stock) cat if it smells/acts like it does with the Asura HFC. There is absolutely no way to tell without jacking up the car whether or not the car has a stock cat or HFC judging by outward appearances and behaviors.
This is not even a concern. The part is CARB exempt and passes visual inspection, and that's what matters. Not to mention that it'd only be an issue in California.
[quote name='eklipz98' timestamp='1316765805' post='20998261']
[quote name='davidc1' timestamp='1316765560' post='20998257']
[quote name='Disgustipated' timestamp='1295686762' post='20129051']
Originally Posted by Vitt,Jan 22 2011, 01:16 AM
Even if the Asura is CARB approved that doesn't necessarily make it legal for all cars. Car has to be more than 7 years old and have over 70K miles for starters, but there are other requirements as well: here is the complete list: http://www.car-sound...sics/04carb.asp
So with all of that in mind, if you've got a high flow cat that doesn't stink or give any outward signs of being modified, do you think its even going to be an issue that's brought up? Think about it. Cops notice the test pipe smell, but they'll automatically assume the car has a (stock) cat if it smells/acts like it does with the Asura HFC. There is absolutely no way to tell without jacking up the car whether or not the car has a stock cat or HFC judging by outward appearances and behaviors.
This is not even a concern. The part is CARB exempt and passes visual inspection, and that's what matters. Not to mention that it'd only be an issue in California.
Regardless, any smog inspection station will spot it immediately. Many will probably decline to even test you because they won't want to hassle figuring out if the cat is CARB legal.
My experience today was two fold:
1. The first shop instantly failed me, took no money, and refused to test me, telling me I would fail (an honest approach IMO).
2. The second shop did a visual inspection, then proceeded to test my car with the sniffer, then despite passing the emissions, failed me on the visual at the end (a dishonest approach IMO). So basically, I am stuck going back to this place, since they have a free re-test.
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I think it's a little bit of a hassle. From what I understand, even though the CARB number may be stamped on the part, the shop still has to look it up in a book or manual published by the CARB. However, the shop has to buy this book. And, it's expensive. So, if a shop doesn't buy the book, they can't look it up, and therefore won't pass it.
But I'm a bit confused. Why did the second shop fail you on the visual inspection if the part had the CARB number on it?
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It was not a CARB EO number, it was a item/model number.
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Guess what, it is a CARB EO number. STFU. GTFO out of my thread with your misinformation, ma douchie.
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Actually I called CARB, and they had no record of a currently approved Asura branded CARB-EO number. You are just plan wrong. The number on my cat was some generic magnaflow part number, not a carb number. Close or delete your thread (or edit it to provide accurate information) if you don't want people replying to it.
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