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Old 04-12-2007, 07:01 PM
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OK WTF? Kia parts..........has anyone been running these gears for a little bit to comment on the quality and if they have lasted?
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Originally Posted by cloudedjudgement,Apr 12 2007, 10:01 PM
OK WTF? Kia parts..........has anyone been running these gears for a little bit to comment on the quality and if they have lasted?
have you been paying attention? they are not "kia parts"

the kia 4.77 ring and pinion is a mazda part, and it is the exact same 4.77 r&p that any other vendor will sell you for the S2000, only minus things like cryo treating and a higher price.

mazda is the supplier of the stock S2000 4.10 r&p, their RX-8 uses their 4.44 r&p, and the kia sportage uses the mazda 4.77 r&p. They are all interchangeable and should be considered of equal quality.
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Originally Posted by Eddie J,Apr 12 2007, 10:34 AM
What a coincidence. My car has just been dropped off with these same gears, as we speak, to be installed.

Here's what I did:

--Bought gears from local Kia dealer (pricematched kiaparts.com + local tax): I did this in case there were any problems with the order...

--Purchased an install kit from HardTopGuy here ($150):

http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/product.ph...4&cat=56&page=2

--You'll probably want one of these as well to correct your speedo ($55) (Yellow Jacket , which is different and cheaper than the Yellow Box!):

http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/product.ph...&cat=145&page=1

--And then you'll want to top off the diff with this ($15/qt) (LE607): Get a couple quarts since you'll want to change the fluid after breaking in the gears (about 500 miles per Rearend Specialties, my local diff shop)

http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/product.ph...2&cat=56&page=1

--Add some washers while you're at it...($2)
http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/product.ph...9&cat=56&page=1

Then I took all of this to the diff shop. Find one that specializes in domestics and trucks. They're usually quite comfortable with these kinds of installs. They replace rear ends and do gear swaps all the time. Import shops are *usually* more familiar with FWD cars...YMMV.

My quote for LABOR ONLY (I bring car in, they take diff off, install gears, put diff back on) was: $450.

I hope this helps...

Break in procedures to follow if anyone is interested.


Eddie.

p.s. Some of the same/similar products are available through www.ricks2k.com as well. If you're concerned about getting the best price, check shipping rates through both. They're pretty close I think. The only difference is that Rick's sells the YELLOW BOX and not the YELLOW JACKET. Also, www.modifry.com sells the YELLOW JACKET direct to consumers.
Thanks for the summary! So if I'm doing the math properly in my head, it'll cost ya around $1000 for parts and labor, right?
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Here's my total cost:

Gears: $285

Labor: $450

YJ: $55

Install Parts: $175 (I decided to get side seals in addition to the OEM install parts)

LE 607 : $30 (2 quarts; one for initial break-in, one for next 10-15k miles)




TOTAL $995

Yes, you're right. It's about a grand for lots and lots of smiles

I just got my car back this afternoon and it has NO GEAR WHINE whatsoever. Granted, there is a gentle break-in procedure (lower RPMs, keep it under 55mph for first 100 miles; under 65 mph for next 400 miles). I haven't been WOT yet, so I can't comment on that...but there isn't any difference from stock on deceleration in any gear, especially first. I understand that if there is any gear whine, the most pronounced occurs in first (although I don't exactly understand why).

Anyway, I'm completely satisfied with this mod. It remains to be seen what acceleration will be like in addition to increased revs on the highway. We'll see....

Eddie.
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Originally Posted by Eddie J,Apr 12 2007, 11:14 PM
Here's my total cost:

Gears: $285

Labor: $450

YJ: $55

Install Parts: $175 (I decided to get side seals in addition to the OEM install parts)

LE 607 : $30 (2 quarts; one for initial break-in, one for next 10-15k miles)




TOTAL $995

Yes, you're right. It's about a grand for lots and lots of smiles

I just got my car back this afternoon and it has NO GEAR WHINE whatsoever. Granted, there is a gentle break-in procedure (lower RPMs, keep it under 55mph for first 100 miles; under 65 mph for next 400 miles). I haven't been WOT yet, so I can't comment on that...but there isn't any difference from stock on deceleration in any gear, especially first. I understand that if there is any gear whine, the most pronounced occurs in first (although I don't exactly understand why).

Anyway, I'm completely satisfied with this mod. It remains to be seen what acceleration will be like in addition to increased revs on the highway. We'll see....

Eddie.
Did you take the route of using Kia gears?
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Good to hear can't wait to have mine installed.
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Yes, I used Kia gears...look a few posts above that one...
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I would still rather order them from HTG installed so I knew it was done correctly.
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RX-8 has 4.44 gears, but will it fit in ours?
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thinking about changing out my gears. Two questions. 1. Performance wise, how different are the 4.56 and 4.77? Im not concerned about whine but how will the higher RPMs on the 4.77 affect engine life? 2. Should I wait till I swap out my LSD to install the gears?


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