Round 2, car overheated agian after
#72
Originally Posted by teamvalorracing,Aug 2 2010, 01:02 PM
honda doesnt use copper spray...
inline pro doesnt use copper spray...
cometic doesnt use copper spray...
i dont think that has anything to do with it at all.
this is difficult to assess the problem source over the internet. all we can do is give reasonable hypothesis for him to test and see what he gets as a result.
inline pro doesnt use copper spray...
cometic doesnt use copper spray...
i dont think that has anything to do with it at all.
this is difficult to assess the problem source over the internet. all we can do is give reasonable hypothesis for him to test and see what he gets as a result.
However, does it hurt to spray a bit more assurance? no it doesn't
Did it cure my headgasket leaking issues? It sure did. (518wrhp at that time) And yes, again my deck straightness was in specs as per Honda's manual. And cylinder head passed the straight edge inspection as well.
If there is a space in the layers of the gasket, that's what the copper spray is for.
Does it have anything to do with it? Of course not, he doesnt have copper spray lol
And I agree w/ sould coughing. It doesn't just blow, it starts seeping/leaking and you won't know it till it overheats.
As Soul Coughing said, from my experience as well, the system gets contaminated with air and it just won't bleed itself because everytime you drive it, it just keeps getting more air over and over again until You have an overfloweD tank.
In Joey's first post, when he said he stopped at the compression test and bleeding the system. I wasn't convinced. Had a feeling the symtoms whould come back, unfortunately. The question in my head was: Why does the system have air again? ...
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^ i doubt copper spray fixed your headgasket issues bro. 99% bet that it had something to do with how your reassembled it. new gasket? double checked the torque on the re-install? something along those lines probably fixed it. no way did you pull the head, spray some copper, and slap it back on exactly as it was and *POOF* all your worries are gone.
just sayin'
just sayin'
#74
Originally Posted by teamvalorracing,Aug 2 2010, 03:50 PM
^ i doubt copper spray fixed your headgasket issues bro. 99% bet that it had something to do with how your reassembled it. new gasket? double checked the torque on the re-install? something along those lines probably fixed it. no way did you pull the head, spray some copper, and slap it back on exactly as it was and *POOF* all your worries are gone.
just sayin'
just sayin'
Took everything back off and sprayed the last gasket left with copper spray.
As far as something wrong w/ the install? Highly doubt it dude, after doing it PLENTY of times. Besides, I'm no rookie when it comes to working on cars dude. Been doing it a long long time!
I won't say Poof and it's done, because the install itself takes time, But after the install was complete everything was fine ma friend.
After carefully inspecting the 3 gaskets (layers and all) and not finding defects, aside from not having a microscope to look for microscopic defects, the only variable that changed was the copper spray. Simple science...
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believe what you like bro.
copper spray is a 9 dollar placebo. otherwise, every gasket company(cometic, oem, inline pro) would all use this magical stuff that fixes "unseen" defects.
but you've been doing this for longer than them soooo..........
copper spray is a 9 dollar placebo. otherwise, every gasket company(cometic, oem, inline pro) would all use this magical stuff that fixes "unseen" defects.
but you've been doing this for longer than them soooo..........
#76
Originally Posted by teamvalorracing,Aug 2 2010, 04:23 PM
believe what you like bro.
copper spray is a 9 dollar placebo. otherwise, every gasket company(cometic, oem, inline pro) would all use this magical stuff that fixes "unseen" defects.
but you've been doing this for longer than them soooo..........
copper spray is a 9 dollar placebo. otherwise, every gasket company(cometic, oem, inline pro) would all use this magical stuff that fixes "unseen" defects.
but you've been doing this for longer than them soooo..........
yup 9 dollar placebo did the trick... Whatever you call it mang
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every company doesn't have to use it in order for it work. Copper spray will not seal a 1" gap or imperfections the size of a car tire. But it should help to seal a microscopic imperfection. All it takes for air to escape, path of least resistance...
third.
I never said I've been doing this longer than them. sooooo you most likely read wrong!
First thing to come out your mouth is I must've done something wrong, enough said...
Not here for you to believe me, could honestly care less if you do or don't, I'm simply sharing what I went through and what fixed the issue. If you simply don't know the methodology I went through, ask, don't open up your mouth saying I did this wrong did that wrong.
At any rate your debate isn't helping the poster either...
#77
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Here is the thing, the two times the car has overheated, it went like this
Drive around beat the shit out of the car, park it and let it sit for a while............
Hop in the car start it up, start to drive normally, car starts to overheat
Just like last time, I bled the system and did some WOT pulls and watched the Water temp guage and it seems to work fine.
Is it possible that the head is lifting only a tiny amount on only a few pulls when the motor is very hot? Evrytime the head lifts a tiny bit of air enters the coolant and eventually it is too much air to burp out?
I am getting a leakdown done in two weeks, but do plan on driving the car to a local meet this weekend.
no bubbling in the coolant when I start the car, no milky residue on oil cap, and no burning coolant, seems like I blew the HG between the cyclinder walls, much like AUSs2000,
thoughts
Drive around beat the shit out of the car, park it and let it sit for a while............
Hop in the car start it up, start to drive normally, car starts to overheat
Just like last time, I bled the system and did some WOT pulls and watched the Water temp guage and it seems to work fine.
Is it possible that the head is lifting only a tiny amount on only a few pulls when the motor is very hot? Evrytime the head lifts a tiny bit of air enters the coolant and eventually it is too much air to burp out?
I am getting a leakdown done in two weeks, but do plan on driving the car to a local meet this weekend.
no bubbling in the coolant when I start the car, no milky residue on oil cap, and no burning coolant, seems like I blew the HG between the cyclinder walls, much like AUSs2000,
thoughts
#78
Originally Posted by JoeyBalls,Aug 2 2010, 05:47 PM
Here is the thing, the two times the car has overheated, it went like this
Drive around beat the shit out of the car, park it and let it sit for a while............
Hop in the car start it up, start to drive normally, car starts to overheat
Just like last time, I bled the system and did some WOT pulls and watched the Water temp guage and it seems to work fine.
Is it possible that the head is lifting only a tiny amount on only a few pulls when the motor is very hot? Evrytime the head lifts a tiny bit of air enters the coolant and eventually it is too much air to burp out?
I am getting a leakdown done in two weeks, but do plan on driving the car to a local meet this weekend.
no bubbling in the coolant when I start the car, no milky residue on oil cap, and no burning coolant, seems like I blew the HG between the cyclinder walls, much like AUSs2000,
thoughts
Drive around beat the shit out of the car, park it and let it sit for a while............
Hop in the car start it up, start to drive normally, car starts to overheat
Just like last time, I bled the system and did some WOT pulls and watched the Water temp guage and it seems to work fine.
Is it possible that the head is lifting only a tiny amount on only a few pulls when the motor is very hot? Evrytime the head lifts a tiny bit of air enters the coolant and eventually it is too much air to burp out?
I am getting a leakdown done in two weeks, but do plan on driving the car to a local meet this weekend.
no bubbling in the coolant when I start the car, no milky residue on oil cap, and no burning coolant, seems like I blew the HG between the cyclinder walls, much like AUSs2000,
thoughts
Next day Iwould leave my house and in 5 minutes it would overheat with the reservoir filled up above normal.
#79
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it's almost a nice way to blow a headgasket, car is still drivable after a nice bleed of the system
I wonder if parking the car on an incline overnight would burp it
it's almost a nice way to blow a headgasket, car is still drivable after a nice bleed of the system
I wonder if parking the car on an incline overnight would burp it
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Originally Posted by JoeyBalls,Aug 2 2010, 06:01 PM
^
it's almost a nice way to blow a headgasket, car is still drivable after a nice bleed of the system
I wonder if parking the car on an incline overnight would burp it
it's almost a nice way to blow a headgasket, car is still drivable after a nice bleed of the system
I wonder if parking the car on an incline overnight would burp it
There was no other indication of coolant/oil mixing, plugs wet, etc.
Hopefully your issue is a lot less complex than what I went through