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Old 04-24-2012 | 09:44 PM
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OK, I have been reading all over the forums of different opinions about oil squirter and failed engines and ect.. So who here thinks, it is a good Idea, to plug up oil Squirters? Well if you do, you should not do this anymore. There is absolutley no good reason for this, Oil Squirters are probably one of the best inventions, an engine has ever received. Oil Squirters are absolutely critical to help keeping Pistons Cool. For those who say, well, it has been done many times before, well they where in error to do so. So if your building your engine and your block has factory Oil Squirters, leave them installed.
Old 04-24-2012 | 09:51 PM
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No reason to plug them.

I completely agree. If you need more pressure, there are other solutions to more oil pressure, removing the the squirters is a stupid choice.
Old 04-25-2012 | 07:24 AM
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I have never ran them in 9 years on any motor. No problems. But I think it depends what the cars function is.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:31 AM
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We never run them on cars with forged piston on B, K, or F series engines. 1. Helps maintain oil pressure 2. forged pistons are much stronger and don't need them 3. We don't want the added weight on the rotating assembly.

The guy in the other threads block did NOT fail do to squirters not being there. After 14 years of blocking them off we have never had a failure from it
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:57 AM
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Agreed with forged stuff there's really no need for them, there main purpose in life is to piss oil at the wrist pin and the lower portion of the skirt which thanks to forged materials reduces there importance. Run them if you like, really makes no difference.
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Old 04-25-2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by efi2nr
3. We don't want the added weight on the rotating assembly.
This was my biggest concern
Old 04-25-2012 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vduber
Agreed with forged stuff there's really no need for them, there main purpose in life is to piss oil at the wrist pin and the lower portion of the skirt which thanks to forged materials reduces there importance. Run them if you like, really makes no difference.
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People miss the point often on squirters, just cause some motors survive without em doesn't mean they should be removed. It's a bit of insurance.

Look at it this way, if your motor is already on a hot tune and pushing it's limits, it's going to keep your motor alive, that little difference could be blown motor or ok motor. If your setup is already very safe perhaps it won't matter, perhaps.

Not much reason to remove em. They're not part of rotational weight on the s2k. For example, I don't remove roll bars to save weight....not worth the savings. Better internals will save weight, a lighter flywheel will more than makeup for those differences and has no risks.

Honda put forged pistons in the car from the start AND put oil squirters in for a reason, not because they were bored.

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Old 04-26-2012 | 04:10 PM
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why are we discussing rotational mass being effected with or without squiters? They mount to the block and have no bearing on the crankshaft or rotating assembly at all? I can see for piston clearence and things like that, but not for mass....
Old 04-26-2012 | 04:21 PM
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Are you saying that at high rpms, the extra weight from the oil squirted being thrown directly on the rotating assembly isn't throwing off the balance?
Old 04-28-2012 | 07:51 PM
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All current Ferrari engines all have forged internals and are all equipped with Oil Squirters some Formula 1 Engines have as much as 6 Squirters per bore to cool the Bottom of the Piston. If splashing oil on rotating mass was any issue, the Ferrari and Formula 1 engineers would have not gone out of their way to design their engines with Squirters. if you are battling oil pressure problems, there are other ways to go about it.



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