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Old 11-27-2012, 05:12 PM
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Hey guys. So i'ts that time where, the greddy kit is'nt cutting my taste anymore. I've decided to gather up as much info and parts as i can and Moving towards a Complete rebuild of my moter, and so far I've had a great parts list gather'd up for a good price. My engine is on it's way out.. 185 on 2 and 220 on 2 . Leak down test and damm am i sad.. My goal is to reach 450-550 on pump gas. Id like to run e85 later on. I'll have to talk with a tuner. I have a plm sidewinder maifold, 38mm tial mvs. rc 1000cc high imp, garret gt35r, waldo 255, synapse bov and running on aem series 1 ems, and a aem water/meth, 3 bar map

Now as for that.. i'd like some good solid "concrete" info on engine build. I've read countless forums about stock internals doing quite good on #. This will be a street car for me.Looking to pump 14 on low boost and 22!! I plan on running,.. So far I plan on Keeping the block stock..otherthen a blockgaurd, arp headstuds, stock hg, Debating on having my pistons machined(read this on a forum). All New oem rings/bearings, gaskets. As for the head I was either going with stock or , supertech springs and ti retainers, Port out the head and manifold. That is all. Trying to keep this on budget as I still need to figure out what clutch im going for and rear end?/?/

So far how does this sound? Hopfully I have a solid plan here unless someone could give me suming betterr to work withh!.
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550whp on pump gas with stock bottom end? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong but I really think that very hard to do safely. E85 should be no problem though. I would get rid of the RC's and get some ID's. Also upgrading the walbro 255 to a bigger pump like the walbro400, FB340, or aeromotive 340 would be a good idea
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Yes coming close to 500 on pump with a stock motor is not something I have ever seen. You will also need a bigger fuel pump from what I have been told by a few tuners. 255 will not be suffient.
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Don't use the block guard because it wi cost coolant restricted and your going to have over heating issue.
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Originally Posted by neoleooo
550whp on pump gas with stock bottom end? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong but I really think that very hard to do safely. E85 should be no problem though. I would get rid of the RC's and get some ID's. Also upgrading the walbro 255 to a bigger pump like the walbro400, FB340, or aeromotive 340 would be a good idea
Yeah I figured I wont have a problem with 450 on pump gas.I've remember reading a couple builds awhile back doing 500 with a similar set up. Whats the main differnce when it comes to rc vs ID? Would you recommand doing anything els to the fuel system other then a bigger pump. Fuel pres reading and fuel rail?
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Yes coming close to 500 on pump with a stock motor is not something I have ever seen. You will also need a bigger fuel pump from what I have been told by a few tuners. 255 will not be suffient.
hmm maybe im getting my hopes up now... ill see tonight what I can get. Was good for my greddy kit but make sence why it wont give it flow for the gt35r. thanks
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Don't use the block guard because it wi cost coolant restricted and your going to have over heating issue.
k only reason why id figured to get this unit and warpage from heat, and to reframe me from getting a new block if pushed to hard. I was looking at the supertech and the coolant passage are pretty small for flow.
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I am shooting for 500 on pump, but I doubt I will reach it. I have ID2200s and FB complete fuel system. This is includes dual hanger with dual 340s, -10an feed lines, -8 return, FB fuel rail, filter, and pressure regulator. It also depends on the size of your turbo. I have Borg Warner S262comp r. I have seen one person local who made 475 on 16psi, but from what I have read most tuners wont push that high on pump.
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Originally Posted by Xherrox
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550whp on pump gas with stock bottom end? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong but I really think that very hard to do safely. E85 should be no problem though. I would get rid of the RC's and get some ID's. Also upgrading the walbro 255 to a bigger pump like the walbro400, FB340, or aeromotive 340 would be a good idea
Yeah I figured I wont have a problem with 450 on pump gas.I've remember reading a couple builds awhile back doing 500 with a similar set up. Whats the main differnce when it comes to rc vs ID? Would you recommand doing anything els to the fuel system other then a bigger pump. Fuel pres reading and fuel rail?
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yea you shouldn't have a problem hitting 450 on pump gas with that GT35r. the RC's will work but If you want your car to idle and run smoother than i would get the ID's. ID's has a better flow pattern. I think over 80% of the guys here on FI are using ID's. The GT35r is capable of putting out lots of power so i would get ID 2000 injectors especially if your planning to use E85 in the future. I also don't think it's necessary to port out the head. How's the pump gas there? here in CA we have the shitty 91 octane but lots of E85 station
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Our kit can do that easy, but I'd recommend race gas or something for your high boost 22psi setting.

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