Mase Engineering S2000 Turbo Kit Introduction
09-09-2009, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Sep 9 2009, 09:02 AM
I checked back a few pages to see if it has been answered yet or not, but has it been determined which EMS will be used as part of the kit for the DBW S2ks?
09-09-2009, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Skatethesea,Sep 8 2009, 07:29 PM
I am really liking the whole thing. And it seems to have everything i am looking for. Though i am still not comfortable with the fuse box and battery. I will be moving thoughs. Can the manifold and/or downpipe be heat treated? And I already have the AEM EMS. But i guess i could sell the one i have. Cheers
09-09-2009, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Sep 9 2009, 07:03 AM
Doesn't that seem like a lot of lag? 
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09-09-2009, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MaseEng Ryan,Sep 9 2009, 08:19 AM
If at partial throttle boost will not start to build. If Mase didn't start the pull untill 4000 RPMs he would still have to build boost from there.
09-09-2009, 08:00 AM
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Mase's typical dyno pull starts around 2-2.5k rpms... there was partial throttle tuning... maybe ryan was a little confused..
the dyno chart shows 4k+ because it shows more useable data for tuning..
[QUOTE]Doesn't that seem like a lot of lag?
the dyno chart shows 4k+ because it shows more useable data for tuning..
[QUOTE]Doesn't that seem like a lot of lag?
09-09-2009, 08:25 AM
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I am not trying to be critical, but you keep saying WHP about the dynapack.
Dynapacks measures Brake Horse Power....while our DynoDynamics measures Wheel Horse Power; From the brakes to the wheels some kind of power loss will always be read.
The typical change from BHP to WHP for RWD cars is normally around 15%
A 15% loss from a qouted "350 HP" at 9PSI is 297
Dynapacks measures Brake Horse Power....while our DynoDynamics measures Wheel Horse Power; From the brakes to the wheels some kind of power loss will always be read.
The typical change from BHP to WHP for RWD cars is normally around 15%
A 15% loss from a qouted "350 HP" at 9PSI is 297
09-09-2009, 09:00 AM
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2QYK4U,
Whats your problem man? Geez....someone trys to bring a nice kit to the market and you just bash it and keep talking about your old inflated numbers. You dont even have an s2k anymore, let it go.
Whats your problem man? Geez....someone trys to bring a nice kit to the market and you just bash it and keep talking about your old inflated numbers. You dont even have an s2k anymore, let it go.
09-09-2009, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Sep 9 2009, 07:17 AM
My inlinePRO kit hit full boost by 3500 RPMs, so in comparison yes that is a lot of lag for a small turbo. Not sure if the issue is log-style manifold vs. sidewinder or something else.
09-09-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Sep 9 2009, 08:44 AM
We simply won't agree here when it comes to how high/low a dyno reads. In the end it really doesn't matter what the peak numbers are but what the power curve looks like.
With that said, we all want to see how this kit compares to the others on the market. Forget peak numbers; let's concentrate on the power curves themselves.
If the turbo you used is similar to a 35, then simply said this doesn't does not perform as well as the Full-Race kit. The power curves on Berlina's and mine are far more impressive.
Your kit looks very nice, but so does the Full-Race kit and boy does it perform!
With that said, we all want to see how this kit compares to the others on the market. Forget peak numbers; let's concentrate on the power curves themselves.
If the turbo you used is similar to a 35, then simply said this doesn't does not perform as well as the Full-Race kit. The power curves on Berlina's and mine are far more impressive.
Your kit looks very nice, but so does the Full-Race kit and boy does it perform!
This thread is NOT to discuss the differences between the dyno's.
Further, spool on the dyno depends on a BUNCH of things. This kit hits 7 psi at 3600 rpms with the 5857 in 6th gear on the road. This does not correlate with the dyno graph because of the way the ramp rate is set. Further, every dyno is completely different and for you to try to compare the two, is absolutely absurd.
To further iterate how different, I have had over 75 s2000's on my dyno dynamics dyno. and not even the most powerful Naturally Aspirated s2000 made over 220 whp. Its extremely rare for them to make over 200 whp on my dyno unless they are highly modified NA cars.
Regarding to the kit:
The 5857 is similar to a gt30 variant, not a gt35.
Our kit with a gt35r on a 2.0l motor made 533 whp on 93 octane 14 psi. So seriously lets stop the absolute nonsense. It has nothing to do with anything at this current time so leave it out of it. The kit was designed with the turbo we chose for a reason.
If you have further questions or concerns, id be happy to address it privately, but you're making this thread way out of hand.
This thread is a disaster, its time to close it.