Mase Engineering S2000 Turbo Kit Introduction
08-09-2009, 04:03 PM
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[QUOTE=camuman,Aug 9 2009, 04:33 PM] i only want to know how chawn churches dyno shows stock s2ks laying down 230+?!?!?!!?!
seems to me it reads more like 13-15% off from a dynojet
seems to me it reads more like 13-15% off from a dynojet
08-09-2009, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Aug 9 2009, 08:03 PM
I am not going to derail Mase's thread with a bunch of off-topic non-sense. Sure there has been a lot of debate about the numbers seen on Shawn's dyno. We all know that a dynapack is the highest reading dyno there is. Period. No debate there.
Although I no longer have the dyno sheets to truly back-up what I am about to say, my S2000 dyno'd 246rwhp on Shawn's dynapack when it was N/A. Full bolt-ons. Within the same month I had the car dyno'd on AutoWave's dyno dynamics dynamometer and it made 225rwhp. A Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer reads lower than a Mustang dyno...at least with AWD cars it does. Anyways, that is a difference of just over 9%. It is my belief that AutoWave's dyno reads a bit higher than it should...either that or the numbers were non-SAE corrected and Shawn's were.
An example of a dynapack vs. dynojet comparison would be on my wife's Evo--on Reese Tuning's dynojet her Evo made 352awhp and 373ft-lbs and on Road Race Engineering's dynapack it made 365awhp and 380ft-lbs. Very close.
Fact is all dynos read differently, unless the test is done on the same day with the same mods the results are suspect, and at the end of the day dynos are simply a tuning agent. Power is measured and proven on the 1320. Unfortunately my S2000 didn't make it there after it was FI, but my wife's Evo surely has and the numbers don't lie.
Although I no longer have the dyno sheets to truly back-up what I am about to say, my S2000 dyno'd 246rwhp on Shawn's dynapack when it was N/A. Full bolt-ons. Within the same month I had the car dyno'd on AutoWave's dyno dynamics dynamometer and it made 225rwhp. A Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer reads lower than a Mustang dyno...at least with AWD cars it does. Anyways, that is a difference of just over 9%. It is my belief that AutoWave's dyno reads a bit higher than it should...either that or the numbers were non-SAE corrected and Shawn's were.
An example of a dynapack vs. dynojet comparison would be on my wife's Evo--on Reese Tuning's dynojet her Evo made 352awhp and 373ft-lbs and on Road Race Engineering's dynapack it made 365awhp and 380ft-lbs. Very close.
Fact is all dynos read differently, unless the test is done on the same day with the same mods the results are suspect, and at the end of the day dynos are simply a tuning agent. Power is measured and proven on the 1320. Unfortunately my S2000 didn't make it there after it was FI, but my wife's Evo surely has and the numbers don't lie.
what i have learned is if sometihng is to good to be true, it prolly is
08-09-2009, 04:32 PM
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the second dyno on the dynojet is STD correction and its adding 3% to your nmbers. 81 degrees and 40% humidity on SAE might even be more like a 97-99% of original, SO
the dynojet would be more like 331 to 338, which is approx 7-9% lower then that dynapack, which is not churches, and his is known to be even more optimistic then others.
if u still have the dynofil from your pull, you can recorrect to SAE to see if i am close
what sucks is there is no standard what so ever to read HP. u would think by now someone coulda figured it a way to compare this type a shit.
the dynojet would be more like 331 to 338, which is approx 7-9% lower then that dynapack, which is not churches, and his is known to be even more optimistic then others.
if u still have the dynofil from your pull, you can recorrect to SAE to see if i am close
what sucks is there is no standard what so ever to read HP. u would think by now someone coulda figured it a way to compare this type a shit.
08-09-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by camuman,Aug 9 2009, 05:32 PM
the second dyno on the dynojet is STD correction and its adding 3% to your nmbers. 81 degrees and 40% humidity on SAE might even be more like a 97-99% of original, SO
the dynojet would be more like 331 to 338, which is approx 7-9% lower then that dynapack, which is not churches, and his is known to be even more optimistic then others.
if u still have the dynofil from your pull, you can recorrect to SAE to see if i am close
what sucks is there is no standard what so ever to read HP. u would think by now someone coulda figured it a way to compare this type a shit.
the dynojet would be more like 331 to 338, which is approx 7-9% lower then that dynapack, which is not churches, and his is known to be even more optimistic then others.
if u still have the dynofil from your pull, you can recorrect to SAE to see if i am close
what sucks is there is no standard what so ever to read HP. u would think by now someone coulda figured it a way to compare this type a shit.
dbw turbo kit!
08-10-2009, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyFloyd,Aug 10 2009, 09:52 AM
Mase....your a busy man. Lets see some updates though....I want to be made jealous I dont have this kit. haha
Let's see some pics of my car and a DYNO would be super.-Chris
08-10-2009, 11:24 AM
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hey guys! i am the welder/fabricator here @ mase eng... feel free to bug me instead of mase with some of you questions... he is a super busy guy, and i am sure i can answer at least 50% of your questions..