Help me with a Meth Addition
05-16-2009, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c,May 15 2009, 11:27 PM
Why would you run meth and race gas? Especially if your goals are 560-600whp.?
It's obvious in the vids above, that over 600whp can easily be had with an AEM Water/Meth kit and pump gas.
I also don't understand why you say there is no linearity? You set your start PSI and your end PSI and it flows 0-100% How much more linear do you want to get.
It's obvious in the vids above, that over 600whp can easily be had with an AEM Water/Meth kit and pump gas.
I also don't understand why you say there is no linearity? You set your start PSI and your end PSI and it flows 0-100% How much more linear do you want to get.
Just to give you a little more background of what I am trying to do.
There is proportionality between the displacement of your engine, RPM and the amount of air it consumes. That being said the faster the engine rotates the more air is taken in with all else being equal. In an optimal situation you add meth in proportion to the CFM that the engine takes in. Now for talking purposes we will call this a linear relationship b/c that is what most companies that sell kits believe.
The AEM controller has a start pressure A which initializes the system, then when you turbo spools up and hits the upper set point B the system goes to 100% flow. My turbo should hit peak boost at 5000 RPM or less then from 5000-9000 RPM there is an estimated CFM range of 560-860CFM. If I were to use the AEM kit I would have to size the system to spray it's maximum amount of water at 560CFM, b/c you will risk damaging your engine with the flow rate you need for 860CFM.
In real life I will need a much higher proportionality of water/meth at higher RPM
05-16-2009, 09:52 AM
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[QUOTE=dsddcd,May 16 2009, 12:01 PM] I am running a small turbo so at the PR and CFM I would need to make that kind of power there with be a lot of extra heat. Plus I have a 2.0 stock block and a IP's cast manifold so I have to be very creative to even come close to what I want. My guess is that 550WHP will be very hard to get.
Just to give you a little more background of what I am trying to do.
There is proportionality between the displacement of your engine, RPM and the amount of air it consumes. That being said the faster the engine rotates the more air is taken in with all else being equal. In an optimal situation you add meth in proportion to the CFM that the engine takes in. Now for talking purposes we will call this a linear relationship b/c that is what most companies that sell kits believe.
The AEM controller has a start pressure A which initializes the system, then when you turbo spools up and hits the upper set point B the system goes to 100% flow. My turbo should hit peak boost at 5000 RPM or less then from 5000-9000 RPM there is an estimated CFM range of 560-860CFM. If I were to use the AEM kit I would have to size the system to spray it's maximum amount of water at 560CFM, b/c you will risk damaging your engine with the flow rate you need for 860CFM.
In real life I will need a much higher proportionality of water/meth at higher RPM
Just to give you a little more background of what I am trying to do.
There is proportionality between the displacement of your engine, RPM and the amount of air it consumes. That being said the faster the engine rotates the more air is taken in with all else being equal. In an optimal situation you add meth in proportion to the CFM that the engine takes in. Now for talking purposes we will call this a linear relationship b/c that is what most companies that sell kits believe.
The AEM controller has a start pressure A which initializes the system, then when you turbo spools up and hits the upper set point B the system goes to 100% flow. My turbo should hit peak boost at 5000 RPM or less then from 5000-9000 RPM there is an estimated CFM range of 560-860CFM. If I were to use the AEM kit I would have to size the system to spray it's maximum amount of water at 560CFM, b/c you will risk damaging your engine with the flow rate you need for 860CFM.
In real life I will need a much higher proportionality of water/meth at higher RPM
05-16-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c,May 16 2009, 08:44 AM
It used to be his, it's mine now. 
05-17-2009, 06:27 AM
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I don't know if it's been mentioned but I find the best information about meth at http://forums.evolutionm.net/water-alcohol...ection-nos-173/
Those EVO guys even run 100% water, which is crazy.
Those EVO guys even run 100% water, which is crazy.
05-17-2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian300D,May 17 2009, 06:27 AM
I don't know if it's been mentioned but I find the best information about meth at http://forums.evolutionm.net/water-alcohol...ection-nos-173/
Those EVO guys even run 100% water, which is crazy.
Those EVO guys even run 100% water, which is crazy.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=145
Unless anything changes I believe I will be using an Aquamist HFS-6 with the addition of a tank with float switch and Devils own nozzles.
05-17-2009, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KewlWhip,Apr 30 2009, 08:48 PM
Aquamist HFS-6...
05-17-2009, 12:21 PM
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I think your goal with that turbo/manifold and the 2.0l is gonna be tough but I wish you luck. You may need to consider changing out your coils to RSX coils, see how it goes first.
I am dropping my car off to have the AEM meth kit installed. I am thinking about 14psi. I will in a week or so to let you know how it goes.
I am dropping my car off to have the AEM meth kit installed. I am thinking about 14psi. I will in a week or so to let you know how it goes.