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Old 02-01-2015 | 09:42 PM
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Hey Rick E Rocket thanks for your info regarding the FMIC.

Have you compared the (air/water aftercool/heat exchanger) system to the FMIC on the dyno? I would have thought the shortest pathway to the throttle body + colder water cooled air would be far better for flow and also lower temps?

Also mate your huge FMIC looks sweet! Where did you get that from? That is awesome.

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Mark
Old 03-07-2016 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick E Rocket
Well I spent an entire weekend testing all different aspects of the FMIC setup on a Dynojet. On the testing block were 5 different Intercoolers, 2 were the same core with different endtanks, and a range of piping from full 2.5" to Full 3" and everything in between. I changed literally 1 piece at a time and logged 3 pulls starting at the same IAT for every run with the exception of the direct piping-with those pulls I just waited for the IAT's to stabilize before starting. The log on Ultimate Racing's site is a bit misleading. It does not compare IAT's of an Aftercooler to a FMIC. The log showing IAT's in the 160* range is from straight piping from the charger to the Throttle body with NO Heat exchager. I know because I just did it. My car logs 13.5 PSI at 9000RPM direct to the TB. My final setup was all 3" piping routed the "traditional" way with InlinePRO's Race Intercooler. So that is a loss of 2psi total. I did not have an Aftercooler to test this time but form previous test's I believe pressure drop was about 1-1.5 psi there. I saw no difference in Throttle Response at all since the car is force fed air throughout the entire RPM band. The Final result was 356whp 225tq at 11.5 PSI. I picked up 2.5 PSI plus 40 WHP and 20 TQ from my original setup. From this test I learned the charger really likes the least resistance possible, bigger piping, bigger cores, smooth transitioning endtanks, angled pipe over angled couplers. All these things played a large roll in freeing up the HP and increasing efficiency


Oh, a quick rundown of the setup. the motor is an old sleeved 2.0L 9:1 comp, the head has a stock port with springs and retainers. Comptech NOVI 1000 blower. All this was installed in 2005 so it is a bit tired now. I first saw this car back in 2004 when I worked as a tech at a performance shop. 1 year ago the owner called me and offered to sell the car, I was happy to bring it back into my garage.

I have some questions I just recently got my fmic together and running with a novi 1200 4'' blower pulley 6.75 crank. I see 12-13 psi at 8k rpm. Throttle is responsive but I have a problem once I see more than 3psi I get what seems like compressor surge till 5500 rpm and it rockets away. i see 6psi at 4500 rpm where vtec is at the moment [tuner didn't want to drop it at the first session but are going to 3600 next week} I will be running 2 tial Q50mm bov's 1 with the 1.5 lbs spring the other 3psi . One on each side of the intercooler which is a treadstone tr1045 860hp all 3'' pipes as smooth as I could run them and I have a cold air intake I built with 4'' to 3.5'' into the blower any ideas where to go with this ? When this oscillation occurs the boost bounces as does timing and knock i feel like the small cam can't take that much boost at ambient temps as this intercooler is very efficient I am seeing a 60f drop from the blower outlet to the 2nd bov before the throttle body. Any thoughts on this as I haven't had much help so far
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