Not to knock on the OP, but I didn't see any mention of a boost controller or clutch. With the turbo you have, the clutch won't hold. Optimistic pricing would put those two around 600.00 and that's if you do the clutch yourself. It's doable but a bit of a pain-I hate that alternator bolt. That and your fuel control will put you over 2500 and that doesn't include tuning.

If you decide to tune yourself, you're going to need a few more tools which will also put you over 2500.

I'm at 4500. Could of got it down to 4000 if I went with a lesser manifold, but I don't think one could do it under 3000.00 for a complete kit.

 

Wow, you are incredible at comparing the cars! Here let me give you a cookie...



Lets try and stay on the topic at hand, BUILDING a turbo kit for the S2000. There is nothing more needed to turbo an S2000 then there is to turbo a civic. Sure different setups will require some different parts but that is the case for either cars. Having installed and tuned both setups multiple times I think I have a pretty good idea of what I am talking about.

A few things to note....
I find it funny you bitch about 11:1 compression with FORGED PISTONS and can imply that its worse then 10.2:1 compression with CAST PISTONS.

Rebuilding the blocks for B series, D series, and F series all cost about the same. 1k for sleeves, 1k for piston and rods. I have seen b series and F series cores go for about the same price as well. The cranks on the S are about 200$ more used, big deal.

A complete GSR swap runs about the same price as a complete S2000 swap.

The majority of advanced Honda tech's have LONG since moved passed "kits". They are practically a thing of the past. Anyone who knows Tubo setups knows that you can put together a much better "kit" yourself then most places market.

The 2 main things that cost more to turbo an S2000 are the EMS setup (including all necessary hardware) and the intercooler piping. Any REPUTABLE tuner can tune an S2000 just as easy as a civic. I am not talking about the half ass guys who use the same map for ever dam car and then just tweak it a bit. Ever wondered why inline has such a hard time tuning AEM, and piratically refuses to do it? Yet I know plenty of tuners that have no problems running the system for years?

 

ok sure convince the n00b that is just as easy to find shitty parts and plub tubing through his s2000 as it is a $2000 beater civic.

Tell him that its easier and cheaper to half ass it right off the bat and build hack together system.

Yeah thats a great idea. So take your damn cookie and eat it.

Then when his peiced together turbo goes all to shit are YOU going to be there to help him fix it? Are YOU going to be paying money to track down all the little/big problems he'll likely face with a homemade turbo kit? I bet not.

Hell a proper tuning ALONE will cost this guy half of his Budget. Assuming hardware and dynotime. Thats not even considering a proper EMS management system.

my bad kid, go ahead and plum some piping through your car, have your local guys tune it and get back with us when you have problems.


I say the S2000 is NOT like a civic. You can put a peice of shit turbo on a peice of shit and it'll pass with the high school kids as cool, but its not cool to do the same with an s2k. Sure there are SOME who have built their own turbos and done well, but even they are completely not reliable. You really think a peiced together turbo kit is a good idea for a guy who has his car as a daily driver and is probably going to have to pay Someone ELSE to do all the work?

 

Dude, you still have allot to learn if you think that a full store bought "kit" is more reliable then a well put together kit someone builds on there own. I mean really...

For the love of god man, the speculation is NOT needed. I didn't tell him to do any of this shit you are talking about. I gave my opinion and that was to AVOID this kit and look for something else. Oh you must have missed that post where I told him everything wrong with it... Tell me where I said to do it half ass, hack job, cheap, on anything else you implying???

I'm getting tired of this 2000$ civic BS. It really doesn't matter how much your car cost new unless you don't plan on modifying it. It's all about the quality of workmanship and parts you put into your ride that sets you apart from the rest. Id be willing to bet my "2000$ civic" would run circles around you on any track you car think of, all day long. Just because you own an S2000 (as do I), doesn't mean you are better then anyone else.

 

Someone with no knowledge about turbos, with a limited budget who is going to have to pay someone else to build a custom turbo their daily driver which they probably cant afford to be without.

They cannot take the risk that a homemade turbo kit built by a "local fab guy" is going to be as reliable as a store bought kit. Hell even i said some off the shelf kits will have problems.

I am sorry if you felt the $2000 civic comment was a personal attack against you. But you cant deny that old civics now cost about $2000-4000, which is indeed less than an F20/F22 engine in good running condition. Its common knowledge that the old B series motors are available cheap now, especially since now the K swaps are the hot thing. Locally in NC my friends have picked up GSRs and B16s for less than $1500. If your paying 4 grand for a gsr motor you've been had, the days of expensive b swaps are over, especially since you can walk into any junk yard and find 4 or 5 B motors just chillen.


I will not make this a civic vs s2000 discussion. If you have a respectably built Civic thats great!

 

Please go ahead and build your own car, piecing things together, keep a list of your time and costs, post pictures when your are done if you think this is not a big deal then you wont mind the criticism, prove us all wrong!, many of us on here have been FI the s2000 since it came out, and if can be done cheaper it would have..........


I have 2 "kits" going to be ready for release within the next month or so - (testing,testing,testing) and i can tell you i can not build a kit wholesale for under $3000.

 

dude si2die4 is not talking about the cost of cars here. he is talkin about turbo set ups. he is not trying to compare civics to the s2000.the s2000 is a far better car. he is simply saying you get what you pay for. as for me I will never buy another turbo kit. my knowledge is way past that. hes is not saying put together a hack job. a turbo kit is only as good as its parts and its tune. and yes I do agree you can not put together a reliable kit for most cars for under 3000.

 

When I first joined S2KI, there were a ton of blown motors and very few successful turbo setups. The consensus seemed to be that the S2000 was un-turboable. The reason was that people were treating the S2000 like a Civic. The standard of turbo kits has increased since then, but the one underlying factor in their success is proper engine management and tuning. That's the difference between a blown motor and a happy owner. The individual parts can be had cheaply, the difficulty is putting everything together into a coherent setup.

Tim

 

 

SI to Die for or I died for my SI whatever the hell you are calling yourself, you cant compare turboing a civic to a s2000 YOU CANT I dont give a horse shit how many big words you use and how many paragraphs you type YOU CANT. I dont come on here and disrespect anyones opinions or what they have to say. You dont have to agree with what I said but keep your comments to yourself.