Quenstion on iPod install with this wire
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Quenstion on iPod install with this wire
Hey guys... I just bought an iPod mini and its awesome. I currently have a Alpine 9827 on the car and was wondering instead of getting a wireless transmitter or other routes of installation that cost over $100 to get the iPod working on the car, can't I just buy this cable and run it on the back of my radio and plug the headphone back into my ipod and call it a day?
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Yes, that wire will work great. I did the same thing with my Alpine in my Civic, and it was fantastic. I'd suggest combining it with this charger:
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...duct_Id=149006#
The charger has a 3.5mm jack in the base, you can run the audio cable (you may want a longer cable, but they're easy to find) behind the head unit out and under the console cover to the power outlet. That way, you only have one cable running from the charger to your ipod which handles both power and audio. The charger then feeds out the audio to the headunit with minimal wire clutter.
Your head unit is AiNet compatible, so the ipod car connection kit is an option. While you gain the ability to control the ipod through the head unit, you lose the ability to control the ipod directly. I have no first hand experience, but the headunit navigation is reportedly klunky and slow, so bear that in mind. The advantage is that you can hide the ipod away completely and have only one wire to deal with total.
I'd recommend the first option myself, but definitely test out the ainet interface if you can to see if you like it. If you like it, you have a very elegant solution with one wire for less than $100.
It sounds like you've ruled out the other options, such as wireless transmitters (which suck) and more expensive solutions like the Neo ion. I love the ion because you get basic headunit controls and keep your ipod controls too, but having the best of both worlds will cost you $200. The Y-splitter and belkin charger will cost you less than $50 and will sound great.
Good luck!
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...duct_Id=149006#
The charger has a 3.5mm jack in the base, you can run the audio cable (you may want a longer cable, but they're easy to find) behind the head unit out and under the console cover to the power outlet. That way, you only have one cable running from the charger to your ipod which handles both power and audio. The charger then feeds out the audio to the headunit with minimal wire clutter.
Your head unit is AiNet compatible, so the ipod car connection kit is an option. While you gain the ability to control the ipod through the head unit, you lose the ability to control the ipod directly. I have no first hand experience, but the headunit navigation is reportedly klunky and slow, so bear that in mind. The advantage is that you can hide the ipod away completely and have only one wire to deal with total.
I'd recommend the first option myself, but definitely test out the ainet interface if you can to see if you like it. If you like it, you have a very elegant solution with one wire for less than $100.
It sounds like you've ruled out the other options, such as wireless transmitters (which suck) and more expensive solutions like the Neo ion. I love the ion because you get basic headunit controls and keep your ipod controls too, but having the best of both worlds will cost you $200. The Y-splitter and belkin charger will cost you less than $50 and will sound great.
Good luck!
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from what i can find, the 9827 does NOT come with an aux input standard. you need one of these http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QDjIofdmNxt/c...00&I=469ALPAIRC to connect to the ai-net plug to get aux in.
as for ipod compatibility, I think its the 9825 and up for '04 models and 984(?) and up for '05 models.
i've been using the aux in being fed off the line level feed of the belkin car plug for audio through my 7894 (its too old for ipod box, gonna upgrade) it works very good (much better than just using the headphone port, don't have to worry about volume) but can be a pain when you want to change songs and have to find where the ipod has moved, esp at night.
as for ipod compatibility, I think its the 9825 and up for '04 models and 984(?) and up for '05 models.
i've been using the aux in being fed off the line level feed of the belkin car plug for audio through my 7894 (its too old for ipod box, gonna upgrade) it works very good (much better than just using the headphone port, don't have to worry about volume) but can be a pain when you want to change songs and have to find where the ipod has moved, esp at night.
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I have the Belkin charger and the Monster ULPCC - the Belkin's built in amplifier really messes with the ipod sound. To me the Monster ULPCC sounds much more like my ipod connected to my home stereo - but the jack is at the base of the dock connector, not at the power end, so you have to run a second cable.
I use the Belkin to charge in another vehicle that can only use the cassette adaptor - you have to plug the cassette adaptor into the headphone jack.
I use the Belkin to charge in another vehicle that can only use the cassette adaptor - you have to plug the cassette adaptor into the headphone jack.
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In addition to chargin the iPod while it is on-board, the Alpine iPod connector, like the other connectos that attach to the BOTTOM of the iPod (instead of hooking in to the mini-phone jack on the TOP) receive a much better signal. This is especially important if you have music that uses the apple lossless encoding (CD quality music) or AAC or other high quality file format.
Even if you have high quality MP3s on your iPod you will probably notice a significant difference.
On the other hand, the monstercable or radioshack method is very quick, simple and inexpensive.
-Rom
Even if you have high quality MP3s on your iPod you will probably notice a significant difference.
On the other hand, the monstercable or radioshack method is very quick, simple and inexpensive.
-Rom
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I am doing an IPOD install, and am doing a step by step writeup on how to do it. Ive been working with KNUKONCEPTZ to make a new line of wiring specifically for IPODS. It should be out shortly.
If you want to use that wire, YOU HAVE TO USE THE DOCK!
If you plug it into the IPOD headphones jack, you send the sound through the IPOD processor, and the EQ in the IPOD wil fight with the EQ in your headunit, resulting in no bass, and messed up everything else. Wait a few more days, an Ill have a great how-to on this issue.
Also, I gave the alpine interface a whirl, it was.....
*slow
*terrible if you use your IPOD outside your car.
If you want to use that wire, YOU HAVE TO USE THE DOCK!
If you plug it into the IPOD headphones jack, you send the sound through the IPOD processor, and the EQ in the IPOD wil fight with the EQ in your headunit, resulting in no bass, and messed up everything else. Wait a few more days, an Ill have a great how-to on this issue.
Also, I gave the alpine interface a whirl, it was.....
*slow
*terrible if you use your IPOD outside your car.
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I can live with slow (assuming menus, name update, etc) but please explain why its terrible if you use the IPOD outside of the car? I have no intention of leaving it in the car, also use it at home and work constantly.
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Originally Posted by eepr5' date='Feb 22 2005, 08:46 AM
I can live with slow (assuming menus, name update, etc) but please explain why its terrible if you use the IPOD outside of the car? I have no intention of leaving it in the car, also use it at home and work constantly.
This is just my opinion. Im sure others love it.