Swift Spec R.... Review
10-13-2013, 06:05 PM
#171
Moderator
Where is your proof to back up these claims of "constant"?
I know these cars do have a short stroke but constant is a bit extreme IMO. I have never felt or noticed any ill effects from hitting the bumpstops and it isn't something that typically comes up in the r&c forum. I think the only reference has to do with auto cross and it being a more prevalent issue because of the quick transitions.
Are you referencing auto cross situations?
I know the difference.
I know these cars do have a short stroke but constant is a bit extreme IMO. I have never felt or noticed any ill effects from hitting the bumpstops and it isn't something that typically comes up in the r&c forum. I think the only reference has to do with auto cross and it being a more prevalent issue because of the quick transitions.
Are you referencing auto cross situations?
I know the difference.
10-13-2013, 07:04 PM
#172
This alone proves my point that you don't know exactly how they work. They are there to act as a sort of secondary spring under high compression situations. The condition that I quoted you describing is "bottoming out" the suspension. Further to the point of the "feel" of the rear being less desirable with the Swift springs, answer this-
Say that the hypothetical travel of the system before bottoming out is 3", wheel rate aside. You have removed 33% of that travel with only a few % increase in spring rate through 1 inch of lowering. How could the bumpstops (at their factory length) *not* be engaged significantly more? Keep in mind that the system with the bumpstop engaged will behave in a manner that is quite nonlinear compared to when the bumpstop is not in use.
10-13-2013, 07:21 PM
#173
Moderator
Yes you are right and what you quoted is bottoming out, not hitting bumpstops. I realized that when I went back and read what I wrote ( can't edit posts on my phone unfortunately).
In your scenario where you said answer this you are assuming the car is already constantly engaging bumpstops which is not true.
I know what the ill effects can be from hitting or riding bumpstops and I have yet to experience this.
In your scenario where you said answer this you are assuming the car is already constantly engaging bumpstops which is not true.
I know what the ill effects can be from hitting or riding bumpstops and I have yet to experience this.
03-04-2014, 08:17 PM
#177
So much has been said on this. Adam, Mike, or David can speak to this given their knowledge and experience. The Swift R springs were designed with a CR in mind with stock struts. I've had mine for close to a year and enjoy the ride height, and the balance between handling and ride quality of the springs. However I don't believe these springs settle at all. I thought I read that in the past on some posts. It all about proper installation and of course the struts and tire choice which make a big difference in ride qualify. I've had other springs like CT and Eibach on other cars but the Swift R feel the best as far as ride quality. I've added a pic to show the ride height. [attachment=54955::]
