Swift Spec R.... Review
#121
I have read this thread many times, but I did not feel like this question was answered specifically. I figured it was worth a shot to get some input on my situation. Maybe I missed it but I was looking for someone who has tried both ap2 shocks with Spec-R springs and CR shocks with Spec-R springs. I wanted to know if it was worth it to buy the CR shock for my ap2, if I am going to go with the Spec-R springs. I realize it is better, but how much better and is it worth the price?
Thanks again
Thanks again
#122
Moderator
Just did my second track day with the Spec R's. Pushed the car harder this event, and on a few occasions used more curbing then I wanted which resulted in a little bit of air which resulted in the car bouncing/slamming back down the other side of the curb. Happy to report that even with a passenger in the car I did not rub or hit bumpstops. I feel the dampers still have enough stroke left in the rear in particular. I do have video that I can post later of the one hit in particular but if that didnt cause bottoming out, rubbing, or bumpstops damn I hate to feel and be a part of what does
Car was awesome again. I did a session in my car, then jumped straight into a stock CR to provide some coaching/instruction. Next time out I plan on driving my car then the stock CR back to back in order to give a perhaps more creditable and direct review. What I did observe, and what I have always said is that the Swift Spec R's allow the car to set much quicker. The car reacts, transitions weight, and in some ways feels more agile. DISCLAIMER: I am not saying the Swift Spec R in any way make the car faster! That is still probably impossible to prove for many reasons. What I am saying is I PERSONALLY prefer the way the Swifts react. This track was very much like a large karting track which allowed you to attack and be aggressive. I found myself giving sharp and abrupt inputs at time and flicking the car around. The Swifts reacted better than stock in this case and just felt better, and for me they give more confidence. I have always said that if you have more confidence and a warm fuzzy feeling you as a driver can probably drive faster...which doesnt mean the parts actually make the car faster. I could feel in my car I could get the weight and the car to transition and set faster and get on the gas earlier. Again this is just a confidence thing because I am sure an experienced and better driver than myself would drive the same way with a stock CR and have the confidence to just plant their foot. The car also feels and appears to corner flatter. I have one pic of my car below where I am pitching it into a corner at roughly 75mph and the car was flat. Observing stock S2000's and even the stock CR (going not as fast as me) were exhibiting quite a bit more roll. Below is the pic of my car I was referring too, and then a video of my track session. This was my first time on this track and the video is of my 2nd session of the day, so yes I still have plenty to learn and improve on, but I was running pretty quick out there in any case. So there was my subjective review based on just feel as its the only way. Having a calculated and measured review is just not possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFJfE...yh7yAg&index=2
Car was awesome again. I did a session in my car, then jumped straight into a stock CR to provide some coaching/instruction. Next time out I plan on driving my car then the stock CR back to back in order to give a perhaps more creditable and direct review. What I did observe, and what I have always said is that the Swift Spec R's allow the car to set much quicker. The car reacts, transitions weight, and in some ways feels more agile. DISCLAIMER: I am not saying the Swift Spec R in any way make the car faster! That is still probably impossible to prove for many reasons. What I am saying is I PERSONALLY prefer the way the Swifts react. This track was very much like a large karting track which allowed you to attack and be aggressive. I found myself giving sharp and abrupt inputs at time and flicking the car around. The Swifts reacted better than stock in this case and just felt better, and for me they give more confidence. I have always said that if you have more confidence and a warm fuzzy feeling you as a driver can probably drive faster...which doesnt mean the parts actually make the car faster. I could feel in my car I could get the weight and the car to transition and set faster and get on the gas earlier. Again this is just a confidence thing because I am sure an experienced and better driver than myself would drive the same way with a stock CR and have the confidence to just plant their foot. The car also feels and appears to corner flatter. I have one pic of my car below where I am pitching it into a corner at roughly 75mph and the car was flat. Observing stock S2000's and even the stock CR (going not as fast as me) were exhibiting quite a bit more roll. Below is the pic of my car I was referring too, and then a video of my track session. This was my first time on this track and the video is of my 2nd session of the day, so yes I still have plenty to learn and improve on, but I was running pretty quick out there in any case. So there was my subjective review based on just feel as its the only way. Having a calculated and measured review is just not possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFJfE...yh7yAg&index=2
#123
Registered User
adrs2k, i love the look of your car but it seems like your car is the only one who has gotten the perfect ride height with these. everyone else seems a bit higher than you. this is the only thing holding me back from trading out my BC coilovers for some CR shocks and Swift Spec R spring.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
#124
Moderator
adrs2k, i love the look of your car but it seems like your car is the only one who has gotten the perfect ride height with these. everyone else seems a bit higher than you. this is the only thing holding me back from trading out my BC coilovers for some CR shocks and Swift Spec R spring.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
#125
Registered User
good to know. im running the same tire size as you are but i confirm RS3s look even meater than my S04s. I would Probably be in RE-11s if i deceide to go this which are pretty similiar to the rs3s in size.
#126
adrs2k, i love the look of your car but it seems like your car is the only one who has gotten the perfect ride height with these. everyone else seems a bit higher than you. this is the only thing holding me back from trading out my BC coilovers for some CR shocks and Swift Spec R spring.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
Serious question though.
#127
RE-11 run pretty skinny... relative to the RS3. The RS3 in 255 is wider than most "normal" 265.
#128
Registered User
Originally Posted by Jack_in_the_Box' timestamp='1355153172' post='22200736
adrs2k, i love the look of your car but it seems like your car is the only one who has gotten the perfect ride height with these. everyone else seems a bit higher than you. this is the only thing holding me back from trading out my BC coilovers for some CR shocks and Swift Spec R spring.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
i love how firm my ride is with my coil overs but it does get a bit much during daily driving.
Serious question though.
Originally Posted by Jack_in_the_Box' timestamp='1355155394' post='22200834
good to know. im running the same tire size as you are but i confirm RS3s look even meater than my S04s. I would Probably be in RE-11s if i deceide to go this which are pretty similiar to the rs3s in size.
#129
One thing that will make a very small difference in ride height as silly as it sounds is whether or not the bolts were all tightened with the suspension loaded or not. I've always heard you need to preload the suspension before tightening the bolts and doing so will leave the car a tad lower than not.
#130
For those with the CR dampers and swift specR's, what are you measuring at in inches from your fender lip to your wheel centercap?? Stock CR measurements would be appreciated as well.