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Old 03-12-2024, 02:41 AM
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anyone using or have experience with these pads?


Seem like a good deal


I was looking for a pad upgrade for a track night. I’m trying to run NOLA or Road Atlanta next month. I had originally looked at Carbotech XP10 but then came across these. Looking for feedback or suggestions.

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They're fine. The dust will etch into your wheels and calipers...and will embed a little into your paint (fenders, doors, bumpers, etc) since they're a metallic pad, so that's something to be aware of.

Carbotechs have much more tame dust...but any race pad will tear up rotors enough to distribute them onto your wheels and paint.

If you mind that, just make sure you clean the car promptly. Use an iron remover.

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They're fine. The dust will etch into your wheels and calipers...and will embed a little into your paint (fenders, doors, bumpers, etc) since they're a metallic pad, so that's something to be aware of.

Carbotechs have much more tame dust...but any race pad will tear up rotors enough to distribute them onto your wheels and paint.

If you mind that, just make sure you clean the car promptly. Use an iron remover.
Think I'm good with that. I swap my wheels/tires anyway, so a quick clean and wash post track is something I do anyway.

I'll likely order tonight and get on this weekend. Get them beaded in and ready for Track night in Atlanta on the 20th.
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just dont forget the fluid
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Carbo Tech XP10 Fronts and XP8 rear are a great track combination. Look at the Motul DOT 400 fluids too. Dates for the track night at NOLA?
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Yeah my goto is the XP10/XP8 combo. XP10s for the front are about $210 and the XP8s for the rear are about $160. I have run the Hawk DTC60's as well but not the ones shown above. I still like the Carbotechs better and the dust is not nearly as corrosive/sticky as mentioned.
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I've used the following on track
  • carbotech XP12, XP10, XP8
  • Hawk DTC 70 and DTC 60
  • Project Mu CR, HC800+, and B-Force
  • Raybestos ST43 and ST42
By far my favorite pad to use and that I currently use is the ST43. They have the best combo of cold bite, heat & fade resistance, low wear rate (both pad and rotors), and non-corrosive dust that's easy to clean. As far as noise - they're all noisy, but are significantly quieter when bedded properly and after a single track day.
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I think the Blue are a relatively low temp pad. The HP+ is an autocross pad and I think the Blue is one step above that, with some overlap.

Carbotech XP12/10 was a good combo for me. But the front seemed like they were doing too much and the rear of the car would get wiggly on really hard braking. People warned not to go with XP12 in the rear because they make too much torque, supposedly.

Which, I feel is why the car ends up being a little too "front heavy" on the brakes.

XP10/8 did work well for balance, but I was out running them pretty bad, and they're an expensive pad to just kill every couple of track days.

They also require dedicated rotors and a very meticulous bed in process.

After using them a few years, I was looking for something more simple and cost effective. I thought about DTC's or Raybestos.

But I decided to try out Powerstop PSA when they came out. They're priced to make you think, "Lol yeah right", which is what led me to try them out. But I've been going with Powerstop PSA's for the last 5 years and they're fantastic.

They're not like ultra refined like Carbotech. They feel kinda wooden and extremely linear. But I kinda like that for a race pad. Maybe I'm part hillbilly idk. Try them out though...


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