megan racing ez street coilover
#31
robinson- i do see your point now. but when you mentioned "poor force curves", these megan can't be that bad when it comes to driving them daily and/or spirited driving, correct? i mean, i'm not trying to do some hard core road racing like around the mountains or try to beat EVERYONE's time on the race track or anything like that.
if i were to run the tracks or drag strip or anything like that for that matter, i wouldn't even consider these megans or probably just bout all the other megans. and if were to go on the track, i would just go after the coilovers that have been used by the majority of race track drivers.
these megans are what i had in mind for simple dd and going in a straight line as fast as i can. if 05apdeuce said they performed better than stock, then i don't see why not?
i'll wait for a few more replies though to see what others have to say about these specific megans, since i do keep an open mind.
if i were to run the tracks or drag strip or anything like that for that matter, i wouldn't even consider these megans or probably just bout all the other megans. and if were to go on the track, i would just go after the coilovers that have been used by the majority of race track drivers.
these megans are what i had in mind for simple dd and going in a straight line as fast as i can. if 05apdeuce said they performed better than stock, then i don't see why not?
i'll wait for a few more replies though to see what others have to say about these specific megans, since i do keep an open mind.
#32
Originally Posted by Hirevs2k,Feb 2 2011, 05:28 AM
if 05apdeuce said they performed better than stock, then i don't see why not?
#33
Originally Posted by robinson,Feb 1 2011, 09:58 PM
I'm usually the one who says you get what you pay for, and I absolutely believe it. The most cost effective option is to do nothing. But it sounds like you really don't want to do nothing, so then you are looking to go low, so if you have to do something, it's cheaper to get Koni Yellows, and the GC coil over kit, I think. Then you actually have a quality shock, and whatever spring you want.
The problem with Megan, is that they don't make the damper, they just put their name on it and sell it. Then there is the issue of the poor force curves. This is the worst part. You are paying for a shock and you usually end up with the worst valving, or at least, nothing better than what you had before. I just don't understand why anyone would pay over $1000 for something that just isn't that great. Megans might be okay, but when I spend money, I want my shocks to be better than before, and not be flawed.
The problem with Megan, is that they don't make the damper, they just put their name on it and sell it. Then there is the issue of the poor force curves. This is the worst part. You are paying for a shock and you usually end up with the worst valving, or at least, nothing better than what you had before. I just don't understand why anyone would pay over $1000 for something that just isn't that great. Megans might be okay, but when I spend money, I want my shocks to be better than before, and not be flawed.
#35
Originally Posted by 05APdeuce,Feb 2 2011, 12:30 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but the Megans are no where close to $1000
#36
I too am pretty open minded, so that is why I am open to you to actually bringing something to the table reguarding an actual issue with the megan coilovers. In all of your posts you still have not given a legitimate reason that these coils are not good for a "daily driver"
You have proven your point that by no means are they good for the track or not proven to be better than the factory setup but can you please tell us why they are no good for daily use??
You have proven your point that by no means are they good for the track or not proven to be better than the factory setup but can you please tell us why they are no good for daily use??
#37
Other than not to spend money, I doubt I'll be able to convince you. I spend $1200 on new CR springs/shocks once. I now regret that decision, and I hope that other people don't regret their decisions either. As long as you know what you are getting yourself into, and know that if you saved up more money you could get a better product, then go ahead.
The real issue is that these coilovers (most single and double adjustable mono-tube shocks) does not produce enough/any forces in the lower speed relm (3in/sec). Low speed shock movements have more to do with body roll due to driver inputs and control of the unsprung mass of the car. You probably will end up with a lot of high speed rebound adjustment, which does nothing for car control. It will feel stiffer, because it is, but this does not mean that stiffer high speed forces are what you want.
One more edit: Often the force graph will also be linear or even logarithmic as the speed increases. The best shocks have a digressive design so that the shock does not react with high forces over bumps. These coilovers have very little compression at any shock speed, which is more comfortable, but you give up grip, even on the street, and most have too much high speed rebound, which does nothing really.
The real issue is that these coilovers (most single and double adjustable mono-tube shocks) does not produce enough/any forces in the lower speed relm (3in/sec). Low speed shock movements have more to do with body roll due to driver inputs and control of the unsprung mass of the car. You probably will end up with a lot of high speed rebound adjustment, which does nothing for car control. It will feel stiffer, because it is, but this does not mean that stiffer high speed forces are what you want.
One more edit: Often the force graph will also be linear or even logarithmic as the speed increases. The best shocks have a digressive design so that the shock does not react with high forces over bumps. These coilovers have very little compression at any shock speed, which is more comfortable, but you give up grip, even on the street, and most have too much high speed rebound, which does nothing really.
#39
Originally Posted by robinson,Feb 2 2011, 06:34 AM
I would need to see a shock dyno of each shock before I would say they are better than stock.
so just by looking at this graph, would this be good enough for dd usage and the occasional spirited runs? thanks
#40
Originally Posted by jlovat12,Feb 2 2011, 03:40 PM
I have them and love them, i dont see how anyone can complain at all especially for the price.