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Old 09-21-2011, 10:28 AM
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Okay lets say for example I want to put my wheels on before I take it to the shop, the suspension is lowered and I do not want to go lower, how do I adjust the camber to get the wheels to fit before I take it to alignment shop. Can someone answer my question rather than tell me to take it to a shop?
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Originally Posted by imtimduh
In my opinion, -3 is too much because it'll kill your tires
Not true.

I've ran -3+ camber on many different tires, and they have all had perfect wear. The key is toe. If your toe is jacked up, you can get some serious wear on the inner/outer shoulders.
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Originally Posted by nmrado
Originally Posted by darksparkz' timestamp='1316579905' post='20991715
Doesn't toe also affect camber? So just merely ride height alone isn't enough to determine adjustable camber range I'd imagine.
Yes, toe does affect camber. I believe I was using 1/4" total toe in when I took those measurements. The camber range will be similar for someone using reasonable toe values. Less toe in = more negative camber. More toe in = less negative camber.
I'm not sure this statement is entirely true? How would toe affect camber? camber refers to the wheel being slanted in towards the top... so if you were looking from behind negative camber looks like this / \ (those would be the wheels from the back lol) toe settings would make the wheel lines look like this.... (as if you were looking from the top of the vehicle) / \ so I dont think your toe would change camber. I am a student so any info on how those relate would clear it up. But thats what I've heard and I may be wrong but yeah.
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It's both affected due to the suspension geometry of the car, depending on suspension type, toe, caster, AND camber might be adjusted with any single adjustable, or some cars will be ONLY camber or ONLY toe adjusted independently.

If you can't make it to alignment place, just bring your wheels and have them put it on there.
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Originally Posted by FISH22
Originally Posted by imtimduh' timestamp='1316579549' post='20991705
In my opinion, -3 is too much because it'll kill your tires
Not true.

I've ran -3+ camber on many different tires, and they have all had perfect wear. The key is toe. If your toe is jacked up, you can get some serious wear on the inner/outer shoulders.

Originally Posted by Laawlypop
Originally Posted by nmrado' timestamp='1316627580' post='20992187
[quote name='darksparkz' timestamp='1316579905' post='20991715']
Doesn't toe also affect camber? So just merely ride height alone isn't enough to determine adjustable camber range I'd imagine.
Yes, toe does affect camber. I believe I was using 1/4" total toe in when I took those measurements. The camber range will be similar for someone using reasonable toe values. Less toe in = more negative camber. More toe in = less negative camber.
I'm not sure this statement is entirely true? How would toe affect camber? camber refers to the wheel being slanted in towards the top... so if you were looking from behind negative camber looks like this / \ (those would be the wheels from the back lol) toe settings would make the wheel lines look like this.... (as if you were looking from the top of the vehicle) / \ so I dont think your toe would change camber. I am a student so any info on how those relate would clear it up. But thats what I've heard and I may be wrong but yeah.
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thank you both for some answers w some truth in them

OP, you just turn the camber bolt
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Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Laawlypop
Originally Posted by nmrado' timestamp='1316627580' post='20992187
Yes, toe does affect camber. I believe I was using 1/4" total toe in when I took those measurements. The camber range will be similar for someone using reasonable toe values. Less toe in = more negative camber. More toe in = less negative camber.
I'm not sure this statement is entirely true? How would toe affect camber? camber refers to the wheel being slanted in towards the top... so if you were looking from behind negative camber looks like this / \ (those would be the wheels from the back lol) toe settings would make the wheel lines look like this.... (as if you were looking from the top of the vehicle) / \ so I dont think your toe would change camber. I am a student so any info on how those relate would clear it up. But thats what I've heard and I may be wrong but yeah.
I have a good understanding of camber. Take a close look at the geometry of the rear suspension next time you have an opportunity and you'll see that any toe adjustment also impacts the camber and vise versa. You cannot make a change to one adjuster and maintain a constant value for the other parameter, i.e., you cannot purely adjust camber by turning one adjuster. The same is true for toe changes. Turn the adjusters while on an alignment lift will also give you a live measurement of the toe-camber relationship.
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Originally Posted by nmrado
Originally Posted by Laawlypop' timestamp='1316650757' post='20993528
[quote name='nmrado' timestamp='1316627580' post='20992187']
Yes, toe does affect camber. I believe I was using 1/4" total toe in when I took those measurements. The camber range will be similar for someone using reasonable toe values. Less toe in = more negative camber. More toe in = less negative camber.
I'm not sure this statement is entirely true? How would toe affect camber? camber refers to the wheel being slanted in towards the top... so if you were looking from behind negative camber looks like this / \ (those would be the wheels from the back lol) toe settings would make the wheel lines look like this.... (as if you were looking from the top of the vehicle) / \ so I dont think your toe would change camber. I am a student so any info on how those relate would clear it up. But thats what I've heard and I may be wrong but yeah.
I have a good understanding of camber. Take a close look at the geometry of the rear suspension next time you have an opportunity and you'll see that any toe adjustment also impacts the camber and vise versa. You cannot make a change to one adjuster and maintain a constant value for the other parameter, i.e., you cannot purely adjust camber by turning one adjuster. The same is true for toe changes. Turn the adjusters while on an alignment lift will also give you a live measurement of the toe-camber relationship.
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it would've been more clear if you specified that on a stock s2000, toe changes have an affect on camber, and vice versa
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There is a YouTube video with how to and there's also a supper street mag write up on how to adjust camber your self ,...http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t.../photo_23.html
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