TRACK: Lap Attack! Series @ PGP Motorsports Park
10-15-2010, 08:46 AM
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I'm still not in favor of an open r-comp tire class. Nothing will change fron the current setup unless some of the slower drivers decides to go to the street class.
10-15-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ALFYonso,Oct 15 2010, 09:11 AM
^^ I disagree more than I agree with that. The gap between the guys on the podium and the "show up and drive" guys (the group it sounded like this was originally intended to be marketed to) is huge. Again, there's no way anyone on street tires is seeing that podium. If that's the approach, then can we just start timing lapping days and get some type of timing board up so we can at least see if we are faster than everyone we care about?
(Meant to be in response to Jerry)
(Meant to be in response to Jerry)
10-15-2010, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by luder_5555,Oct 15 2010, 08:46 AM
I'm still not in favor of an open r-comp tire class. Nothing will change fron the current setup unless some of the slower drivers decides to go to the street class.
10-15-2010, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jerrypeterson,Oct 15 2010, 09:53 AM
That gap between experienced drivers and the entry level drivers will always be huge. It won't matter what they drive. Besides, you can't uninvite guys just because they have skill. That is why I'm proposing a Novice class.
10-15-2010, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ALFYonso,Oct 15 2010, 11:47 AM
Agreed, I guess I should have worded that differently: street tires vs. Folks trailing in race tires, racecars, etc.. whatever though.
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10-15-2010, 02:14 PM
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I think that I am going to have to get one of the drivers that we know are good to drive my car some time. At least then if they go faster than me I know that its me, and not that I need to keep spending money...
10-15-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jerrypeterson,Oct 15 2010, 01:41 PM
It really doesn't matter what the classes are, the fast drivers will almost always find a way to podium. Under my proposal you will see guys trailering in dedicated race cars... and putting street tires on. You can dilute the pool of talent by coming up with more classes, but the same guys will be on top.
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10-15-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by luder_5555,Oct 15 2010, 03:14 PM
I think that I am going to have to get one of the drivers that we know are good to drive my car some time. At least then if they go faster than me I know that its me, and not that I need to keep spending money...
10-15-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by luder_5555,Oct 15 2010, 03:14 PM
I think that I am going to have to get one of the drivers that we know are good to drive my car some time. At least then if they go faster than me I know that its me, and not that I need to keep spending money...
Specifically:
T3 exit - consistently tons of room on exit
T7 exit - same thing
T8 complex - looks like you could carry more speed through there
T11-T12 - go wider between these corners (big arc to track edge) = more speed, better set-up for T12-T13
Of course it's easy to critique video. Your lines generally look great and you are very smooth. Perfect way to start out. Now you can focus on corner speed - stop using your brakes, they just slow you down! Also, use up the track on corner entry - get to the very edge before turning in. This will increase your corner radius = more speed.
I'm not sure how dialed in your car is but getting the relative roll stiffness balanced and alignment optimized is generally cheap and can be worth many seconds.