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#51
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You're going to have to show up at Tacos.
We can do 4 shots each and then have a spelling bee.
That would kick ass.
You honestly can't believe that NASCAR is a paragon of diversity.
One more thing - re: Asian folks in attendance in Vegas - that my friend is completely different than pretty much any other NASCAR venue. Vegas is one of the number one destination cities for Asians (because my people love to gamble )
You won't find anything even remotely like that happening at other NASCAR venues.
You saw tourists from other countries dude - not Asian Americans. We're too cool for NASCAR, remember?
oh yes... corner!
We can do 4 shots each and then have a spelling bee.
That would kick ass.
You honestly can't believe that NASCAR is a paragon of diversity.
One more thing - re: Asian folks in attendance in Vegas - that my friend is completely different than pretty much any other NASCAR venue. Vegas is one of the number one destination cities for Asians (because my people love to gamble )
You won't find anything even remotely like that happening at other NASCAR venues.
You saw tourists from other countries dude - not Asian Americans. We're too cool for NASCAR, remember?
oh yes... corner!
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Originally Posted by lig,Aug 18 2004, 09:24 AM
You're going to have to show up at Tacos. We can do 4 shots each and then have a spelling bee. That would kick ass.
One more thing - re: Asian folks in attendance in Vegas - that my friend is completely different than pretty much any other NASCAR venue. Vegas is one of the number one destination cities for Asians (because my people love to gamble )
One more thing - re: Asian folks in attendance in Vegas - that my friend is completely different than pretty much any other NASCAR venue. Vegas is one of the number one destination cities for Asians (because my people love to gamble )
Regarding the Asians at NASCAR, you are on crack bro! All they need is a betting booth! There is a lot of Asians in the NW (like you did not know heh!) and I am betting if a track was built, they would come regardless of the betting. I am "betting" there is a ton of Asian folks **here** who would love to hear the roar of 43 V8 vehicles at 9500 RPM (which almost requires ear plugs) running 112 octane race fuel that gives a buzz that you have to experience to believe. Anybody who has gone once, says "I have to do that again". The smell of the fuel and exhaust almost makes the whole trip worth while and borderline orgasmic for gearheads like myself.
I am not gonna reply to anything else on this thread unless Jerry would like to grant me my white trash born wish, and change my screen name to MikeinKent. That would be cool (no joke Jerry)
#53
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Originally Posted by MikeinSeattle,Aug 18 2004, 11:06 AM
I am "betting" there is a ton of Asian folks **here** who would love to hear the roar of 43 V8 vehicles at 9500 RPM (which almost requires ear plugs) running 112 octane race fuel that gives a buzz that you have to experience to believe. Anybody who has gone once, says "I have to do that again". The smell of the fuel and exhaust almost makes the whole trip worth while and borderline orgasmic for gearheads like myself.
I gotta admit, though, there is something about the sound of a Mustang V8. It just sounds good when it is at full throttle driving down the track. I'd rather have an S2000, of course, but the sound of those Mustangs is hard to beat.
#54
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I love the sound of a small block V-8.
Jeff Winchell's Cobra sounds great.
There is a guy autocrossing a V-8 Camaro that sounds really good as well.
And MikeinKent -
$100 says that on average - the attendance @ any future PacNW NASCAR event is less than 15% Asian.
Jeff Winchell's Cobra sounds great.
There is a guy autocrossing a V-8 Camaro that sounds really good as well.
And MikeinKent -
$100 says that on average - the attendance @ any future PacNW NASCAR event is less than 15% Asian.
#55
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Originally Posted by MikeinSeattle,Aug 18 2004, 09:31 AM
LMAO! What happens in Grays Harbor stays there worse than any story in Vegas! That is horrible and all, but the same thing could happen to me if I walked into China Town at night with a loud mouth - I am smart enough not to.
The reference to Mariners and NASCAR was legitimate.. It is a fan based sport that is opening its doors to diversity. There is always going to be hate crimes, you just do not see them in the sports geared towards spectators I referenced above.
The reference to Mariners and NASCAR was legitimate.. It is a fan based sport that is opening its doors to diversity. There is always going to be hate crimes, you just do not see them in the sports geared towards spectators I referenced above.
Baseball was institutionally racist for a long time. Not only the way they treated black players, but much more recently as well. You remember how the Lords Of Baseball almost tried to stop the sale of the Mariners because the new owner would be Japanese? Bunch of rich, white, Easterners who didn't care that people in Seattle, of all races, considered him to be a hero for saving their team, not a foreigner who was stealing it away.
And Baseball is still incredibly homophobic. People get away with saying almost anything about gays -- stuff that would get them run out on a rail if they said it about blacks or asians or hispanics.
But Baseball has come a long way since the 40s. NASCAR and most other pro auto racing series still lag behind.
#56
Originally Posted by lig,Aug 18 2004, 08:37 AM
Tell me about the last time you were harassed for being white?
I went to a middle to lower class high school in Charleston SC my seinor year. It was about 50% black. Coming from rural Illinois, I was extreamly naive about race. I could relate several stories similar to the one above.
I've traveled to a few third-world/poor countries. I was never harassed, but was often in situations I felt threatened.
Racism (classism, whatever) is nearly universal. It's more prevalent in some societies than others, but no group is immune. Japan is very homogenious and has a very racist past. I don't know much about racism in present Japan, but I doubt I'd be free of harassement if I lived there.
"Societies differ, but people are people."
- Michael
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Michael - that's not a fun story. How about in Washington state? I just don't seem to recally any of my white friends (and I do have a lot of them ) really having many problems - particularly from Asians.
I can't really comment on the black/white thing other than to say that my high school was roughly 70% black. No real problems between blacks/whites or the 17 "others" like me.
In Japan - you would have no problems whatsoever.
Much better to be white in Japan than Korean or Chinese or Filipino.
I've had my share of problems with some Japanese nationals. Got into a row at a Giorgio Armani sale of all places with one and had shoved one guy @ the Tokyo Auto show who pretty much stiffarmed my wife!
There are definitely some other countries that might not be as friendly for you as Japan though.
My pals were scared sh!tless in Mexico when were in a little dirt-floored bodega buying beer. No real reason for it other than a snarling dog and a less than friendly vibe.
I can't really comment on the black/white thing other than to say that my high school was roughly 70% black. No real problems between blacks/whites or the 17 "others" like me.
In Japan - you would have no problems whatsoever.
Much better to be white in Japan than Korean or Chinese or Filipino.
I've had my share of problems with some Japanese nationals. Got into a row at a Giorgio Armani sale of all places with one and had shoved one guy @ the Tokyo Auto show who pretty much stiffarmed my wife!
There are definitely some other countries that might not be as friendly for you as Japan though.
My pals were scared sh!tless in Mexico when were in a little dirt-floored bodega buying beer. No real reason for it other than a snarling dog and a less than friendly vibe.
#58
Originally Posted by lig,Aug 18 2004, 09:03 AM
Have I been borderline racist here? Please show me where.
- Michael
#59
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Interesting. I didn't think I was laying into rural whites. I certainly quoted a few of them.
Can you tell me in your opinion where exactly I laid into rural whites? You've got me curious - and of course "it's difficult to see the picture when you are in the frame"
Can you tell me in your opinion where exactly I laid into rural whites? You've got me curious - and of course "it's difficult to see the picture when you are in the frame"
#60
Originally Posted by MSRS2K,Aug 18 2004, 12:49 PM
In my opinion, no, not racist. But you are attacking a certain segment (class) of society without recognizing that there are vastly more good people in that society than bad, or that other societies have the same flaws. Were I to lay into urban blacks the way you are laying into rural whites, I'd be branded a racist by every liberal thinker in the world.
- Michael
- Michael
Didn't mean to say that all societies are equal, or that you're wrong to criticize. I ment that more as a comment on political correctness and the double standard about what is accectable and what's not. Anyway...
- Michael