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Old 01-21-2009, 05:55 PM
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Did I just read this correctly about the Viper?

"Newer designs like the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and Nissan GT-R nearly equal its performance and offer far more livability."
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I didn't realize the Saturn brand was going to the chopping block. They're the only GM brand I respect. Sorry Jack Hanna.
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Originally Posted by 8_ball' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:40 PM
... Second was the entire Saturn line. Don't know how many of you have been to Spring Hill, TN but that whole community was basically built around the assembly facility. 15 years doesn't seem like a long time, considering the amount of public/private investment.
I don't think the Spring Hill plant builds any Saturn models now. That is what makes it hard for GM to sell the brand: all their product is built in other GM plants.

Yet if they drop the brand, they have to settle with all of the dealers that they put out of business.
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Spring Hill reminds me of the VW plant in PA. They gave big subsidies to attract the plant, the plant ran until the subsidies expired, and the plant in PA closed.
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Originally Posted by Scooterboy' date='Jan 21 2009, 04:34 PM
The PT Cruiser gone...Oh no what ever will I do???
lol...I didn't even know it was still in production






Flame me if you wish, but If I were GM ... I'd keep Saturn and tell Buick, GMC and Pontiac to peace out!

They would be just fine with an expanded Chevrolet line of Cars and Trucks, Cadillac for their lux line and Saturn to compete with the imports. Most people don't even know that Saturn is a GM company. Just my two cents
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Originally Posted by RedY2KS2k' date='Jan 21 2009, 11:20 PM
I don't think the Spring Hill plant builds any Saturn models now. That is what makes it hard for GM to sell the brand: all their product is built in other GM plants.

Yet if they drop the brand, they have to settle with all of the dealers that they put out of business.
Spring Hill is building SUV's. The New Chevy Traverse is built there.
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well I guess that "limited edition" badge on every pt cruiser sold did actually mean something

limited to 42 million pt cruisers!
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A 10 year run with little changes to the S2000 isn't bad. For some reason I'm starting to think this WILL be the last year.
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The Viper departing the market after this year is like the heavy weight figher with the title retiring, when you consider the Viper ACR holds the record for the fastest lap for a production vehicle (7:22 vs 7:29 for the GTR and 7:26 for the ZR1) at the ring.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog' date='Jan 22 2009, 01:52 AM
Flame me if you wish, but If I were GM ... I'd keep Saturn and tell Buick, GMC and Pontiac to peace out!
I disagree in that I'm a bit more extreme than you. I think GM should be cut down to Chevy (basic transportation AND import-fighter), Caddy (lux division), and MAYBE GMC (trucks--could also be part of Chevy so far as I'm concerned). Buh-bye to Buick, Saturn, and Pontiac.

Brand engineering of the type practiced by GM simply makes little sense and is a holdover from the 60's. The only place it has in today's automotive world is in bringing international GM cars (aka G8 ) to the US.

As far as Saturn, it lost its distinct flavor when GM decided to bring over Opels and brand them as Saturns. They might as well be Chevys.

As far as the S2000......I hope Honda cancels it altogether, but I won't believe it until the word comes from Japan.


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