The quest for "Flushness" using AP2 OEM Wheels!
#541
Now how come stock CRs come with 215-255? I guess Honda doesn't know wha the heck they are doing then..
On a side note, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a difference in side walls height when you up the with? 225-45 taller than 215-45. 255-40 taller than 245-40
On a side note, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a difference in side walls height when you up the with? 225-45 taller than 215-45. 255-40 taller than 245-40
#542
Originally Posted by gabster,Dec 2 2010, 08:28 PM
Now how come stock CRs come with 215-255? I guess Honda doesn't know wha the heck they are doing then..
On a side note, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a difference in side walls height when you up the with? 225-45 taller than 215-45. 255-40 taller than 245-40
On a side note, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a difference in side walls height when you up the with? 225-45 taller than 215-45. 255-40 taller than 245-40
#543
Originally Posted by danvuquoc,Dec 2 2010, 02:47 PM
I never noticed a steering response difference from 215->225. Even if there was a difference in steering response, that's something you can compensate for.
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Okay so I just read this whole thread, and probably forgot half of the stuff I read in the beginning. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I ultimately got from this thread.
Using the ap2v1 wheels with stock tires the following MAX (anything less is assumed to be safe) setups will be safe:
1) 15/20mm front/rear on stock height (no fender rolling).
2) 15mm all around lowered up to 1 inch (no fender rolling).
I know s4play
and danvuquoc
have said many times that anything over 15mm is asking for trouble. However, is it implied in these two quotes that if you wanted to have either of the following setups AND roll your fenders they would be safe?
1) 15/20mm lowered up to 2"
2) 15mm lowered up to 1 finger gap.
Thanks for the help and sorry if I'm still not getting it.
Using the ap2v1 wheels with stock tires the following MAX (anything less is assumed to be safe) setups will be safe:
1) 15/20mm front/rear on stock height (no fender rolling).
2) 15mm all around lowered up to 1 inch (no fender rolling).
I know s4play
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders
Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped
If you run anything over a 15mm spacer with stock or bigger tire-sizes and you are lowered by over an inch, prepare to have your fender pulled out.
It might not happen to you right away, but it will happen. You can choose wether it gets pulled out by a bodyshop with a fender roller or when your tire hooks onto your fender lip and tears/pushes it out.
It might not happen to you right away, but it will happen. You can choose wether it gets pulled out by a bodyshop with a fender roller or when your tire hooks onto your fender lip and tears/pushes it out.
1) 15/20mm lowered up to 2"
2) 15mm lowered up to 1 finger gap.
Thanks for the help and sorry if I'm still not getting it.
#545
Originally Posted by menacejean,Dec 7 2010, 09:41 AM
Okay so I just read this whole thread, and probably forgot half of the stuff I read in the beginning. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I ultimately got from this thread.
Using the ap2v1 wheels with stock tires the following MAX (anything less is assumed to be safe) setups will be safe:
1) 15/20mm front/rear on stock height (no fender rolling).
2) 15mm all around lowered up to 1 inch (no fender rolling).
I know s4play and danvuquoc
have said many times that anything over 15mm is asking for trouble. However, is it implied in these two quotes that if you wanted to have either of the following setups AND roll your fenders they would be safe?
1) 15/20mm lowered up to 2"
2) 15mm lowered up to 1 finger gap.
Thanks for the help and sorry if I'm still not getting it.
Using the ap2v1 wheels with stock tires the following MAX (anything less is assumed to be safe) setups will be safe:
1) 15/20mm front/rear on stock height (no fender rolling).
2) 15mm all around lowered up to 1 inch (no fender rolling).
I know s4play and danvuquoc
have said many times that anything over 15mm is asking for trouble. However, is it implied in these two quotes that if you wanted to have either of the following setups AND roll your fenders they would be safe?
1) 15/20mm lowered up to 2"
2) 15mm lowered up to 1 finger gap.
Thanks for the help and sorry if I'm still not getting it.
1.) Will require a roll all the way around, the rear will need to have the bumper tab trimmed and relocated and possibly the bumper edge trimmed. Front will need to have a hint of flare in the roll.
2.) Same as above but with slightly more aggressive front flare for long-term clearance. Rears will need to be shaved less on the bumper.
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Hey guys,
Just sharing some more info.
I used to have 15mm's in the rear and just changed to 20mm in the rear. This is on 255's. I have around a half finger gap with my drop.
My findings.
15mm's in the rear on 255's will only slightly rub on huge dips mostly at speeds above 50. You could get away with no fender modification and be fine. (With a good bit of camber)
20mm's in the rear on 255's will cause extreme rubbing on the rear bumper tab and slight rubbing on the fender near the rear tab. and this is with a lot of camber....
Here's a pic of my new setup on 20mm's with fenders rolled and the bumper tabs relocated back about 3 inches + slight trim . The right side sits a tiny bit lower than this pic of the left side.
Zero Rubbing now
left side
right side from farther away
Just sharing some more info.
I used to have 15mm's in the rear and just changed to 20mm in the rear. This is on 255's. I have around a half finger gap with my drop.
My findings.
15mm's in the rear on 255's will only slightly rub on huge dips mostly at speeds above 50. You could get away with no fender modification and be fine. (With a good bit of camber)
20mm's in the rear on 255's will cause extreme rubbing on the rear bumper tab and slight rubbing on the fender near the rear tab. and this is with a lot of camber....
Here's a pic of my new setup on 20mm's with fenders rolled and the bumper tabs relocated back about 3 inches + slight trim . The right side sits a tiny bit lower than this pic of the left side.
Zero Rubbing now
left side
right side from farther away
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Originally Posted by kjayp2,Dec 9 2010, 10:24 PM
^weak!!!
haha just messin looks great robbie glad to hear its not rubbing now
haha just messin looks great robbie glad to hear its not rubbing now
Arent you running a 225 on a 10" wheel in the rear
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So, please forgive for the question even though Ive read 10 pages in this thread.
Just for clarification, you can use the Project Kics spacers without extended lugs (or any hub work), making it a complete bolt on installation using AP2 V2 wheels w/resessed holes?
My goal is a bolt on install with no hub disassembly required.
Just for clarification, you can use the Project Kics spacers without extended lugs (or any hub work), making it a complete bolt on installation using AP2 V2 wheels w/resessed holes?
My goal is a bolt on install with no hub disassembly required.