The quest for "Flushness" using AP2 OEM Wheels!
10-19-2010, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark355,Oct 18 2010, 02:54 PM
I'm lowered 1.25" and want to run 15mm in the rear only with stock AP2v2s. No fender mods whatsoever. Factory alignment specs. Need hub-centric 15mm spacers with built-in studs so I can just remove the rear wheels, throw the spacers on, and bolt the wheels back on. Again, don't want to do any fender modifications.
Is this possible? H&R?
Is this possible? H&R?
10-19-2010, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by keemaca,Oct 18 2010, 02:13 PM
kinda off topic but don't want to start a new thread was wondering if anyone makes 8mm spacers I know they make universal ones but im looking for some that come with extended bolts, or would I have to buy bolts separately...
10-19-2010, 10:55 AM
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OK so I've seen this thread has been going for a while (about a year or more) those of you that have had spacers for along time, any bearing problems? adverse changes in drive-ability? any daily drivers with spacers?
Also with 25mm all around, and 1 inch drop, 215/245 tires,
only a fender roll would be sufficient correct?
no pulling or anything crazy like that is required correct?
thanks
Also with 25mm all around, and 1 inch drop, 215/245 tires,
only a fender roll would be sufficient correct?
no pulling or anything crazy like that is required correct?
thanks
10-19-2010, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gabster,Oct 19 2010, 10:55 AM
OK so I've seen this thread has been going for a while (about a year or more) those of you that have had spacers for along time, any bearing problems? adverse changes in drive-ability? any daily drivers with spacers?
Also with 25mm all around, and 1 inch drop, 215/245 tires,
only a fender roll would be sufficient correct?
no pulling or anything crazy like that is required correct?
thanks
Also with 25mm all around, and 1 inch drop, 215/245 tires,
only a fender roll would be sufficient correct?
no pulling or anything crazy like that is required correct?
thanks
With 25mm all around, on a 1.5" drop on 215/255 I had to do the following:
Rear: Roll, trim the bumper edge that turns into the car, relocate bumper tab and shave down the existing bumper tab.
Front: Roll, slight pull.
All that being said, after track time and lots of street driven miles, my fronts have flared themselves after hitting bumps/track burms while the wheels are turned. Be prepared for fender damage unless you really do flare them out quite a bit. I'm not trying to scare you -- that's just the reality of the matter.
10-19-2010, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc,Oct 19 2010, 02:34 PM
Daily drove with 25mm rear, 20mm front for over a year now and many track days. No bearing issues -- drivability is fine if you have the clearance. I used to run a 25mm front, but switched down to a 20mm when I put slightly wider rubber in front.
With 25mm all around, on a 1.5" drop on 215/255 I had to do the following:
Rear: Roll, trim the bumper edge that turns into the car, relocate bumper tab and shave down the existing bumper tab.
Front: Roll, slight pull.
All that being said, after track time and lots of street driven miles, my fronts have flared themselves after hitting bumps/track burms while the wheels are turned. Be prepared for fender damage unless you really do flare them out quite a bit. I'm not trying to scare you -- that's just the reality of the matter.
With 25mm all around, on a 1.5" drop on 215/255 I had to do the following:
Rear: Roll, trim the bumper edge that turns into the car, relocate bumper tab and shave down the existing bumper tab.
Front: Roll, slight pull.
All that being said, after track time and lots of street driven miles, my fronts have flared themselves after hitting bumps/track burms while the wheels are turned. Be prepared for fender damage unless you really do flare them out quite a bit. I'm not trying to scare you -- that's just the reality of the matter.
i don't mind the normal rolling, but i would definitely like to avoid any kind of pulling or flaring fenders, you think i would be fine with 20mm Front and 25mm Rear?
oh and stock alignment ok?
10-19-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gabster,Oct 19 2010, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the input, so that sucks, how bout 20mm up front? you think i would have to pull flare anyways? on 215 tires, and 1" drop
i don't mind the normal rolling, but i would definitely like to avoid any kind of pulling or flaring fenders, you think i would be fine with 20mm Front and 25mm Rear?
oh and stock alignment ok?
i don't mind the normal rolling, but i would definitely like to avoid any kind of pulling or flaring fenders, you think i would be fine with 20mm Front and 25mm Rear?
oh and stock alignment ok?
10-19-2010, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc,Oct 19 2010, 07:11 AM
I haven't seen anything like that, I'd look for someone who makes custom spacers -- but at that depth, built in studs might not be an option, I would imagine there is a minimum safe thickness. I'm afraid if you need 8mm, you may be stuck going the extended stud route.
10-19-2010, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc,Oct 19 2010, 02:55 PM
I had my fender already rolled when i put my 20mm up front on a 1.5" drop on 225s with -1.7 of camber in front. Track time pulled the fender out naturally. I think you'll probably be safe for a little bit on 20mm spacers on 215s with a 1" drop and a roll -- for a little while. It'll only take ONE driveway or trackday bump with the wheel turned to pull that fender out though.
Maybe somebody in here with 20mm or 25mm in front could chime in?
10-19-2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by keemaca,Oct 19 2010, 12:43 PM
Oh I wasn't looking for some with the bolts built in I was planning on installing the extended bolts... any links or anything for someone who will make custom ones..?
10-19-2010, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gabster,Oct 19 2010, 01:07 PM
So pretty much, in you opinion, even with 20mm front, I need to pull the fender? Only difference would be that if i don't, damege might be less than if i had 25mm? Does your fender look deformed now?
Maybe somebody in here with 20mm or 25mm in front could chime in?
Maybe somebody in here with 20mm or 25mm in front could chime in?
225 w/ 20mm damaged fenders as well
The damage basically pulls the lip of the fender outward and up. No other deformations happened.