i know that the s2000 is a better car for handling but i own an audi s4 and i love the torque. there is plenty of punch in every gear. i am wondering if i am gonna feel lost in a s2000? a couple of questions... from a rolling start (5mph)in 1st gear s4 vs s2000 who is faster to 30, 60, 90, 120, 150? in that order? does the s2000 have a lag feel like until the vtec kicks in? i just want to be able to keep up with my friends 2000 porsche c4 in the s4 it was pretty close beleave it or not...neither of us could pull oneachother by much.

 

no lag...the power just keeps on going and going and.......

 

Having both S4 and S2K, I have to say that the S4 does "FEEL" faster but S2K is hands down better in the twisties...I personally prefer driving the S2K when the weather is nice. The driving experience is totally different with the S2K I feel much more connected to the road. By the way my S2K is Supercharged and my S4 is stock. I was driving my S4 next to a S2K on the freeway and at 60mph we both punched it and he clearly pulled away from me. Either way, both the S2K and S4 have plenty of power.

[Edited by SilverSurfer on 05-23-2001 at 03:43 PM]

 

In my opinion, it really depends on your driving style. If you are the type of person that just loves to floor it in a certain gear without shifting very much, then I feel that you will miss your S4. For that type of driver, having a lot of torque is essential. It would be more difficult to enjoy the s2000 if you are the type of driver mentioned above. It takes some adjusting when driving an s2000 because it has such a high redline. Sometimes I find myself in a higher gear than I should be in. In an S2K, you must be willing to and enjoy shifting because you will have to do it in order to drive the car the way it was meant to be driven. All in all, both cars are excellent and very comparable in acceleration although I would warrant to guess that the S2000 won't feel as fast as the S4.

 

twinturboS,

An S2000 will definately loose to a S4 in 1st gear if the S2000 is not in VTEC. The remedy is to pop the clutch when the S2000 is in 1st gear below VTEC...but that takes time and the advantage still goes to the S4.

 

For the roll on deal, the S2000 will lose to each and every speed if you start at 5 mph.
Now if you did the test starting at 25 mph instead (VTEC land), the S4 is going to lose (chipped or not).

If what you dig is the torque of the S4, you ain't going to be happy with the S2000

 

for some reason i really like the s2000... i think i might look into m roadster with 315hp that should solve my speed worries but i really don't want to dish out the extra $$$$$ the s4 is the best 4 door sports sedan for the money. i got a 2000 6-speed for 38500 fully loaded. i just want a convertable sports car. and btw are there any turbo kits out there for the s2000

[Edited by twinturboS on 05-23-2001 at 04:04 PM]

 

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Posted by RT:
For the roll on deal, the S2000 will lose to each and every speed if you start at 5 mph.

 

no doubt the S2K requres more "driver input" than the S4. IMO, it will stay ahead of the Audi under most conditions as long as it is driven properly. Having said that, the Audi does not require you to focus so much on being in the right gear. That's what boat loads of torque spread all the way across the power band will do for you.

I really like the S4. Call me funny, but I am partial to the Avant and think that is one hell of an everyday car. I also have to say that I think the S2K is a far more exciting and visceral car to drive. Take one for a spin in the twisties and you will see what we are all ranting about.

As to your comment about the MRoadster, I suggest two things. First, do a search on this board as I know some comparisons have been done. Second, drive both the S2K and the BMW.

I have not yet driven the 315hp Mroadster but given the considerable time that I have enjoyed behind the wheel of the "old" 240 hp M roadster, I can only imagine that it must be a real blast.

I am sure that it will blow the doors off of the S2K (at least in a straight line). I personally, would still prefer the S2k. I found the build quality of the M roadster to be sub par. (I think others like Edmunds.com have also had problems with the build quality). Also, the suspension on the car is from the 1987 3 series. That's two generations old and it shows. Take a look at the modern gladiators article in Road and Track. I think they do a marvelous job of explaining the problem. No doubt the car has very high limits and can post some very good numbers, it just doesn't feel very good to me. Kind of like it can't decide what to do unless the suspension is fully loaded or completely unloaded. To make matters worse, the M roadsters that I have driven have not had anywhere near the structural integrity that the S2K does. That means less control, more potential for rattles, and annoying cowel shake.

Also, there is no comparison between tranny's. Again, IMO, I think the S2k has the best manual transmission of any car that I have ever driven. Bar none.

Finally, the value equations. At sticker, the BMW is something like $13K over MSRP of the S2K. That's about a 40% premium. For that extra money you get worse brakes, worse seats, and no HID headlamps. Of course, you do get the cache of the spinning propellor on your hood and some people really put a lot into that. The average layman can't tell the difference between a regular Z3 and an M car anyway, so you lose some of that right off the bat. I have a buddy with an M Roadster who has gotten really pissed on a few occassions because people have assumed that his car had the same anemic I4 that the original Z3 did.

Again, I suggest you drive the cars. I have no doubts that a new M roadster will leave me in the dust in a drag race. I have no problem with that. I think a sports car is about more than straight lines and I can think of a lot of things to do with the money that I saved.

 

0-100. My friend's Audi S4 is not getting away. I was right on his bumper every second from the start. I was quite amazed that S2000 is that fast.