Precisely. The Patriot Act is an abomination to American History and simply eviscerated the Bill of Rights. It's a ing joke. That's the ONLY reason this man was stopped at the border like he was and treated like a "terrorist." Simply take the time to research it and you will find that within the Patrot Act ANY person in violation of ANY offense can now be labeled as a "terrorist." If you are on the street jaywalking you can now technically be labeled as a "terrorist." The most ironic thing to me is how the Federal Government now classifies Christians as a "hate group" and places them under the label of "right-wing extremists" aka "terrorists."

You've got to be kidding me. Where did you pick up this useful bit of information? Perhaps from one of the great forms of government controlled, corporate sponsored, establishment media sources we have in this, "so called," great country. If anyone actually watches "news" from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FoxNews, etc. etc. etc. and believes it then they have a great lack of mental capability. People have WAY too much trust for those in power these days assuming that they will "do the right thing." News isn't even news anymore. It's censored and directed propaganda at best.

How naive can you possibly be? This was a pretend drug search with the excuse used in order to search for other terrorist items. If they had found some kind of Defenders of the Constitution handbook in his car you can guarantee he would have been detained without the right to a lawyer, another nice addition of the PA, and then been labeled/marked as a potential terrorist.

Because most of the people in America today are sheep.

Wake up people. Stand up for your civil liberties before they no longer exist. Be active.

 

I can't believe how freely people toss away their rights. There is a way to fight terrorism without giving up what it is to be an American. To many great people sacrificed and fought for our freedom, for it to be tossed away because folks are scared.

If the Israelis can't stop it, there's no way the CIA can do it, so why bother trying so hard? [/QUOTE]

I've got to disagree with you on this point. Whatever the Feds/CIA/No Such Agency are doing, it is working. Since 9/11 there have been no terrorist attacks in the US.

 

Some snippage

You know, now that I think of it:

The car had custom carbon fiber panels all over the body, or at least the front half of the car. If I were a customs agent and saw the custom bodywork I would wonder if that custom bodywork also included custom secret compartments.

Even if I did so, a drug/explosives trained dog should clear that up rather quickly, and if we are talking about hood/trunk/fenders/quarter panel, the matter should be cleared up easily with the parts still on the car.

Then again, I am not a customs agent.

The whole matter just plain sucks, customs should at least take care in disassembling a vehicle and have the car reassembled in the condition it was found and compensate someone cleared in a search to have whatever damages repaired.

 

Gee let's do the math here. Could it possibly be because Bin Laden used to be a CIA asset that was trained by our military and the fact that these organizations orchestrated and arranged for the attacks on their own country? YES.

What did they stand to gain from all of this?

The erosion of the civil liberties within America, a la Patriot Act, in order to create a National I.D. card system so that anyone and EVERYONE can be tracked at all times. Wouldn't that be great...no crime at all EVER. Uhhhhhh....NO. No freedom is more like it. Why do you think you have to get your thumb scanned now when going to renew your driver's license. Oh yeah...that must be some more "homeland security" to make me feel more secure. We are now officially guilty until proven innocent.

Why were 15 out of the 17 hijackers Saudi's yet Saudi Arabia is not on the "Axis of Evil" list put out by our Federal Government? Why was Al-Hussani Hussein, whom many, MANY people believe to be the John Doe #2 that assisted McVeigh in Oklahoma City yet the Fed's dropped the search on him within hours, working in the Boston airport the morning of 9/11. Coincidence...I think not.

Did you know that it was actually in the USA Today newspaper, back when the first attack on the WTC took place in the early nineties, that the FBI had assisted in the attack and actually cooked the bomb that was used by the Egyptians?

You probably didn't know that because it's not something that is going to get brought up OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again on the so-called "news" like the topic of "homeland security" that we supposedly need to be concerned with.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ultimate lurker
[B]Ace, you ought to pay a little more attention to the whole thread rather than attempting to single out an "interesting" trend which doesn't exist.

Searches are necessary.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by honda606
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Uhhhhhh.....what else do cars get searched for at borders? Since when have you heard of someone being pulled over for a terrorist search?

Of course. Only now they don't have to worry about infringing on rights because the good ol' Patriot Act protects them.

You gotta love this country.

 

ARE YOU FOR REAL?

Drug searches and cars being taken apart has been happening for years (30 plus)

 

Crap Ace, you're little trend comment ignored the fact that some of the criticisms and complaints about this boy's experience came from the East Coast too. Trying to categorize people like that just doesn't work.

As for "the issue", the gov't does have every right to defend our borders, but it doesn't mean that they can destroy an innocent man's possessions without compensation. That is the issue here. Not the search, not the questions, but the end result. Its wrong. Look at it this way - if someone tipped off the cops that your house was a meth lab and they came busting in, breaking your windows and doors only to find that there was nothing there, what would be the fair course of action?

As for my location, I have lived in California for 5 years. I lived in AZ for 17 years before that. What does that tell you about me? Absolutely nothing. It doesn't tell you how I voted, my political views, nothing. You want to talk liberal vs. conservative and coastal preference, start a thread and watch your preconceived notions get shredded.

UL

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ace10
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the trend IS obvious.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by honda606
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