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Old 07-23-2002, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson
You have not *seen* broken bones mended.....
Neither have you (or anyone else) *seen* X-rays, or radio waves. We know of their existence by the phenomena they produce which we can see. Would you deny their existence because you can't see them?

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Old 07-23-2002, 09:43 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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If free will exists, then the next state of a system does not depend entirely upon its history (even if that history is infinitely long).
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[QUOTE]I've posted some links here for you to look at regarding instantaneous divine healing - they are very verifiable as they were done to well-known individuals.

Example 1
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Nothing happens instantaneously in time, so therefore if one is tracking EVERYTHING in infinitely small periods of time, the future can be predicted because there are certain laws within time that cannot be changed. Knowing where everything is and what it is doing in infinitely small sections of time (and assuming the laws of time and physics are correct as we perceive them) will allow one to tell what is going to happen in the next frame.
Well, duh. Descartes thought of that hundreds of years ago. And he was wrong.

But you missed the entire point -- if humans have free will, then watching every infinitesimal piece of gun in infinitesimal time slices is not enough. Between any two of those slices in time, the person could change his mind -- spontaneously, without external provocation, by free will alone. Then God will be stumped, because his prediction will not come true in the next infinitesimal slice of time.

Free will contraindicts divine knowledge of the future. Give it up.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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Did I ever say any of this crap?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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Umm... *gulp*

How is this....... any form of proof at all?
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My MY MY. What hath the web wrought! Play nice or Daddy will flood you again.























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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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Well, duh.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
[B]God is not of this world - the only part of Him on the earth, physically, is in His children and written Word.
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JB You seem to think that everyone has faith, some in puffs of smoke, and some in science. The latter isn't faith. Faith is belief in the unprovable. Science is a systematic path to conclusion as best as we can. One doesn't have faith in science. One understands it and appreciates it. It is a tool not an end in itself.


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