They're Marching Against God - Your .02
07-22-2002, 07:34 PM
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Gary, a few things you said bother me a little, so lets clear it up.
In it's essence, "Time" is the distance between 2 things that happen, God may exist (not in fact, but in theory) outside of time, but he/she/it can do nothing as a result. Are we re-writing the definition of time?
Secondly, being agnostic has nothing to do with evidence, it's blatantly obvious that there is none, it has to do with possibility. It is possible there is/are a God/Gods, it is also possible there there are not. This is the Agnostic view, it's non-denial, sort of respectful if you will. It is the Atheist that requires proof (that would be me
) and thinks that all religions are just crutches created out of human need and weakness.
Andrew
In it's essence, "Time" is the distance between 2 things that happen, God may exist (not in fact, but in theory) outside of time, but he/she/it can do nothing as a result. Are we re-writing the definition of time?
Secondly, being agnostic has nothing to do with evidence, it's blatantly obvious that there is none, it has to do with possibility. It is possible there is/are a God/Gods, it is also possible there there are not. This is the Agnostic view, it's non-denial, sort of respectful if you will. It is the Atheist that requires proof (that would be me
) and thinks that all religions are just crutches created out of human need and weakness. Andrew
07-22-2002, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson
I'm now struggling to see any real difference between an atheist and an agnostic, but then I always did!
We atheists are a skeptical bunch I grant you...
The Turin Shroud has little credibility left...
The Dead Sea Scrolls...
The Lost Ark Of The Covenant...
Show me some proof please... reality!
I'm now struggling to see any real difference between an atheist and an agnostic, but then I always did!
We atheists are a skeptical bunch I grant you...
The Turin Shroud has little credibility left...
The Dead Sea Scrolls...
The Lost Ark Of The Covenant...
Show me some proof please... reality!
There's nothing wrong with being skeptical. It can be the result of an active mind.
The Shroud, Scrolls, Ark and other specifics do not prove there is a God. They would prove how accurate the Biblical account is. There could be a god other than the Hebrew/Christian One.
07-22-2002, 08:22 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2Kguy
[B]Gary, a few things you said bother me a little, so lets clear it up.
In it's essence, "Time" is the distance between 2 things that happen, God may exist (not in fact, but in theory) outside of time, but he/she/it can do nothing as a result.
[B]Gary, a few things you said bother me a little, so lets clear it up.
In it's essence, "Time" is the distance between 2 things that happen, God may exist (not in fact, but in theory) outside of time, but he/she/it can do nothing as a result.
07-22-2002, 09:03 PM
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Einstein said that the serial events of time (cause/effect) cease to behave as we experience them when certain speeds within time are experienced.
Please, people -- if you don't understand science, don't try to use it as a basis for your arguments.
- Warren
07-22-2002, 09:59 PM
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A few years ago I wrote a short article on the subject of God and time. It's not a "scientific" paper. It is a view that I am at this time satisfied with.
GOD, PREDESTINATION AND TIME
I believe that an understanding of how God may experience time can make many things that we believe about Him make more sense. So, I begin by saying that I am trying to make sense of the world to my own mind, and that God is surely not limited to any boxes of logic that I construct to enhance my understanding. God is beyond that!
Think about time. We experience it as an ongoing series of events. We live in the now, remember the past, and look for and guess at the future. The only thing we can control is the moment, and even that gets out of hand at times. It
GOD, PREDESTINATION AND TIME
I believe that an understanding of how God may experience time can make many things that we believe about Him make more sense. So, I begin by saying that I am trying to make sense of the world to my own mind, and that God is surely not limited to any boxes of logic that I construct to enhance my understanding. God is beyond that!
Think about time. We experience it as an ongoing series of events. We live in the now, remember the past, and look for and guess at the future. The only thing we can control is the moment, and even that gets out of hand at times. It
07-23-2002, 04:03 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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So we go from intense philo-babble to evangelism in one short paragraph.
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So we go from intense philo-babble to evangelism in one short paragraph.
07-23-2002, 04:21 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2Kguy
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Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread, I have a life
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Reason has no subjection to it, however, your "consideration" is very subjective...so is your "thinking".
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Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread, I have a life
.Reason has no subjection to it, however, your "consideration" is very subjective...so is your "thinking".