ok, whoever wants to win won. i brought up the topic here because i was hoping to have a discussion with logical contemplative people who would be able to look beyond their own personal potentially erroneous beliefs. with some i was right, for most i was wrong.

the end result, psychologically, is that some of you cannot fathom the idea that those who keep you in line are not as righteous as you would hope. it scares you to think that GODS are imperfect and downright unfair. it scares me too. thats why i was looking for a solution.

[calmly] think about this topic guys... humans are imperfect. humans like power. cops are human. cops have power to hurt other people without punishment. this is a dangerous situation. i think someone who is hopfully more objective can watch over the cops to make sure that their humanity does not get out of hand. this is what i wish to talk about. i never asked you if cops were bad, because some are VERY bad.

i may not like the law, but i also pay the taxes that fund the city that makes the law. i have a say in what is reasonable and unreasonable.

i asked the cop the question to prove a point. i was hoping to see the higher standard of unbiased excellence that cops represent, but instead, i got the neanderthal response. now do you understand why i asked? the approached was based in psychology. i challenge people to see if they will rise to the occassion. like i did here...

 

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i asked the cop the question to prove a point.

 

Jeff, you've been very lucid and level-headed in this admittedly inflammatory thread. I applaud your behavior and wish you a happy, and safe, New Year.

 

I'm going to play the devils advocate here....not that I'm saying this is my opinion.

No one said he had to write what he did either. If secure in himself it shouldn't have bothered him one bit. Of course, he might have been just sharing info rather than being defensive.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shoyu Burner
[B]I salute all cops, even the ones that beat my head in.

 

went to the mall again today. saw the cop sitting there, smug face present. i realized that his smug look is the result of him believing that he is in the "right," enforcing laws that he needs to be justified. how sad it is to realize that most creatures operate like this. our nation hopes that the government is justified and when we find it to be corrupt, we sweep it under the carpet to preserve our disbelief. i am privileged to speak with you all, but i wish we all would admit to the truths of our existence. just like i wish the cop would admit the obvious truths so we could have a productive verbal exchange. we all have hollow support beams in one way or another as americans. that pathetic cop, sitting there, representing nothing but his own denial. i really dont care what cops do to earn money, as long as they do not interfere with myself and my fellow good citizens. on the same token, i dont bump music or cause injury to others. that is why i am innocent.

 

Maybe this is a research project just like kpj posted in S2000 talk, refer to 'This pisses me off' and 'This doesn't piss me off... L@@K'

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ltweintz
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Life, Order, Equality....so which one's on top?

 

there is no equality in nature. only whatever works. order is a myth in the human sense. chaos is nature. chaotic order exists. life is only worth living if it's enjoyable. Fun without hurting anyone else should be top priority.