Talked to a Cop
01-18-2002 | 11:18 AM
#152
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I agree with you 100% buddy.
OK - it's reality check time....
Traffic cops are assholes. Yes, that's a stereotype...but how does a stereotype come to be?? It comes to be via repeatable actions by one group of people! So, yes - it's a stereotype - and it's well deserved, BY DEFINITION.
Cops know when the speed limits are too low, and they "conveniently" set up their speed traps in those areas. In addition to that they do in fact target sports cars. Which makes NO sense. Tell me how it's logical to pull over the car that's MADE FOR SPEED out of a pack of cars that are all speeding. Somebody tell me how that makes ANY SENSE!
Now, you can't blame the cops for setting up speed traps - they are just doing their job. And their job is indeed to fill their QUOTAS. And don't ever ever ever believe that cops don't have quotas for traffic tickets. They do and that's a F-A-C-T. How do I know?:
1) My fathers friend is a cop
2) I know a woman who is married to a cop in Loudon County, Virginia. She told me flat out that he has a quota, and she told me that if a cop ever tries to tell you that he doesn't, he is 100% full of sh^t. Now, take a guess at what his QUOTA is... come on, take a guess.... give up? This cop, a Loudon County, VA cop has a quota of.........you ready?..........150 tickets PER WEEK!!! That's no lie. This woman said that her husband comes home with hand cramps all the time from writing tickets in an attempt to meet his quota.
Now - what you can blame the cops for is where they choose to set up their traps, who they choose to pull over and where they draw the line for 'speeding'. Don't tell me that the cops actually believe that the posted speed limit is what's 'reasonable'. They know it isn't, but they can't say that of course. Where they are wrong is when they pull you over for going 10 over and then try to get you to buy into the idea that you were driving 'unsafely'. PUHlease...
Anyway, the point is that speeding tickets should be issued because someone is driving too fast for the road they are on and the traffic they are in. NOT because there is a quota to be filled so the towns/counties can make money. And speed limits should be set for what's safe and yet keeps traffic moving at a reasonable pace. Come on... don't tell me that 55 is appropriate for most of today's highways. Gimme a break. And even 65 is a bit low for most highways. It's funny how cops never set up traps on a rainy day, or a foggy day - when people should actually be driving slower than usual. They choose the nice sunny days and the nice open piece of road at the bottom of a hill for their speed traps. HOW CONVENIENT. If they were really out there "protecting our safety" they would set up on days and in areas when/where it truly is unsafe to drive 'fast'.
Bottom line is - they have no right to target one group of individuals, especially when those indviduals' cars are MADE FOR SPEED. Yes, if the sports car is the one driving "unreasonably" faster than everyone else... fine. But there is no correlation between someone doing 75 in a 55 on some straight stretch of highway on a sunny day and the probablility that he will cause an accident.
They do it right on the Autobahn.... different cars have different speed limits.. and different sections of the highway have different speed limits (some have no limit, some have a limit set - depends on that section of road you are on).
It's about time we cut the crap and get real about all this...
Feel FREE to email me.. jeffrplant@yahoo.com
OK - it's reality check time....
Traffic cops are assholes. Yes, that's a stereotype...but how does a stereotype come to be?? It comes to be via repeatable actions by one group of people! So, yes - it's a stereotype - and it's well deserved, BY DEFINITION.
Cops know when the speed limits are too low, and they "conveniently" set up their speed traps in those areas. In addition to that they do in fact target sports cars. Which makes NO sense. Tell me how it's logical to pull over the car that's MADE FOR SPEED out of a pack of cars that are all speeding. Somebody tell me how that makes ANY SENSE!
Now, you can't blame the cops for setting up speed traps - they are just doing their job. And their job is indeed to fill their QUOTAS. And don't ever ever ever believe that cops don't have quotas for traffic tickets. They do and that's a F-A-C-T. How do I know?:
1) My fathers friend is a cop
2) I know a woman who is married to a cop in Loudon County, Virginia. She told me flat out that he has a quota, and she told me that if a cop ever tries to tell you that he doesn't, he is 100% full of sh^t. Now, take a guess at what his QUOTA is... come on, take a guess.... give up? This cop, a Loudon County, VA cop has a quota of.........you ready?..........150 tickets PER WEEK!!! That's no lie. This woman said that her husband comes home with hand cramps all the time from writing tickets in an attempt to meet his quota.
Now - what you can blame the cops for is where they choose to set up their traps, who they choose to pull over and where they draw the line for 'speeding'. Don't tell me that the cops actually believe that the posted speed limit is what's 'reasonable'. They know it isn't, but they can't say that of course. Where they are wrong is when they pull you over for going 10 over and then try to get you to buy into the idea that you were driving 'unsafely'. PUHlease...
Anyway, the point is that speeding tickets should be issued because someone is driving too fast for the road they are on and the traffic they are in. NOT because there is a quota to be filled so the towns/counties can make money. And speed limits should be set for what's safe and yet keeps traffic moving at a reasonable pace. Come on... don't tell me that 55 is appropriate for most of today's highways. Gimme a break. And even 65 is a bit low for most highways. It's funny how cops never set up traps on a rainy day, or a foggy day - when people should actually be driving slower than usual. They choose the nice sunny days and the nice open piece of road at the bottom of a hill for their speed traps. HOW CONVENIENT. If they were really out there "protecting our safety" they would set up on days and in areas when/where it truly is unsafe to drive 'fast'.
Bottom line is - they have no right to target one group of individuals, especially when those indviduals' cars are MADE FOR SPEED. Yes, if the sports car is the one driving "unreasonably" faster than everyone else... fine. But there is no correlation between someone doing 75 in a 55 on some straight stretch of highway on a sunny day and the probablility that he will cause an accident.
They do it right on the Autobahn.... different cars have different speed limits.. and different sections of the highway have different speed limits (some have no limit, some have a limit set - depends on that section of road you are on).
It's about time we cut the crap and get real about all this...
Feel FREE to email me.. jeffrplant@yahoo.com
01-19-2002 | 02:38 AM
#154
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wow, you almost sound more mad than me. i appreciate your logical input. can't fault you on any of it. ok, so now what can we do about it? i am tired of being at the mercy of these politicians in uniform. is there ANYONE who has an idea of what can be done to fight back against abuse of police power?
01-23-2002 | 07:49 AM
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From: Arlington
Well, take a look at this organization:
http://www.motorists.org/
These guys are basically our "back" on this issue. Read through their website. I signed up to be a member (about $35/year). For example, these people are the folks that lobbied on the Hill to get the national 55mph speed limit lifted - which allowed for states to up their limits to 65.
Jeff
http://www.motorists.org/
These guys are basically our "back" on this issue. Read through their website. I signed up to be a member (about $35/year). For example, these people are the folks that lobbied on the Hill to get the national 55mph speed limit lifted - which allowed for states to up their limits to 65.
Jeff
01-23-2002 | 08:28 AM
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From: Los Angeles, Miami
The thread that will never end...
All aside... some of you seem to hate cops. I wonder how much hate you will have when the day comes that you actually need a cop for some emergency that may arise and you are forced to call 911.
All aside... some of you seem to hate cops. I wonder how much hate you will have when the day comes that you actually need a cop for some emergency that may arise and you are forced to call 911.
01-23-2002 | 09:16 AM
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Hey, I never said I outright hate all cops. Some of them ARE assholes, plain and simple. If writing me a ticket is their job, then so will be responding to my 911 call...
Let's see how much you like cops when you get picked out of a pack of cars, all of which do not measure up to yours (in terms of speed capability) and all of which are going about the same speed as you...
Then let's see how much you like it when that happens time and time again. Remember, it's not just the cost of the ticket that is at stake here (that's not such a big deal), it's the fact that:
A) your insurance could sky rocket (or your insurance company could drop you)
and
B) get 'picked on' enough and you could lose your license.
Jeff
Let's see how much you like cops when you get picked out of a pack of cars, all of which do not measure up to yours (in terms of speed capability) and all of which are going about the same speed as you...
Then let's see how much you like it when that happens time and time again. Remember, it's not just the cost of the ticket that is at stake here (that's not such a big deal), it's the fact that:
A) your insurance could sky rocket (or your insurance company could drop you)
and
B) get 'picked on' enough and you could lose your license.
Jeff
02-01-2002 | 02:45 AM
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JRM
and all the so called followers
suck a fat one......
you all sound like an anal preachers....
blah blah blah blah
give the guy a break
if your here to help great...
if not
why waste our time
if you need to parent or play 50 questions
do it to yourself ....there seems to be plenty of room for IMPROVEMENT
btw
7 times pulled over in the first month of S2000 ownership
NO TICKETS>>> you do the math
very nice cops yeh for nothing .... there was a female one, very sexy, but still a waste of my time... and theirs.....and everone's taxes
love cops (really love the sexy women in uniform)
hate the way they treate a man with a red S2000
and all the so called followers
suck a fat one......
you all sound like an anal preachers....
blah blah blah blah
give the guy a break
if your here to help great...
if not
why waste our time
if you need to parent or play 50 questions
do it to yourself ....there seems to be plenty of room for IMPROVEMENT
btw
7 times pulled over in the first month of S2000 ownership
NO TICKETS>>> you do the math
very nice cops yeh for nothing .... there was a female one, very sexy, but still a waste of my time... and theirs.....and everone's taxes
love cops (really love the sexy women in uniform)
hate the way they treate a man with a red S2000