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05-13-2002 | 07:00 PM
#34
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From: The Hooligan Destination
Originally posted by collin228
Nevermind I still hate Canadia.
Nevermind I still hate Canadia.
05-13-2002 | 07:33 PM
#35
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Having lived in both places I'd say on the whole Americans are more friendly than Canadians. I would also have to say however that Americans are more self absorbed. The "American Dream" is for betterment of self rather than all. Canada is much more regulated in that respect and they prefer it that way. It's a very complex cultural difference.
Canada is a much more liberal society than the US no question. There are always many sides to the coin. I consider Canada to be a more free society than the US. The US is a very conservative, religious place probably because the first settlers came here to find freedom from religious oppression in England. Moral and societal norms go back to the pilgrims.
Canada is much younger and more progressive and modern in it's cultural norms. In that respect and without the religious conservative baggage it is IMO a freer society. Freedom of speech doesn't really exist in the US despite claims to the contrary. Don't even get me started on freedom of expression!
It is a common cry of conservative politicians in the US to criticize big government. The facts don't bear this out. Canada's government is huge per capita compared to the US but the vast majority of that government is involved in social development and services. The US spends most of it's money on controlling it's borders, interests and people by contrast. They are polar opposites in this respect. Canadians and Americans view the role of government differently. That's why when you try to compare the two you really can't.
One example: When it's time to vote in Canada, an electoral officer will come to your door and register you to vote. They will explain what documents to bring and where the polls are. Registration to vote and making sure at least everyone can is the responsibility of the government, it's expected. In the US, you have to travel to a registration center. The responsibility for registering to vote is solely that of the individual. That has a lot to do with Canada having a 70% voter turn out compared to 30% in the US. Americans expect the government to fight crime and lock up the bad guys. Canadians expect the government to provide services and otherwise stay out of their lives.
Waiting for the healthcare debate to break anytime...
Just my $0.02
Canada is a much more liberal society than the US no question. There are always many sides to the coin. I consider Canada to be a more free society than the US. The US is a very conservative, religious place probably because the first settlers came here to find freedom from religious oppression in England. Moral and societal norms go back to the pilgrims.
Canada is much younger and more progressive and modern in it's cultural norms. In that respect and without the religious conservative baggage it is IMO a freer society. Freedom of speech doesn't really exist in the US despite claims to the contrary. Don't even get me started on freedom of expression!
It is a common cry of conservative politicians in the US to criticize big government. The facts don't bear this out. Canada's government is huge per capita compared to the US but the vast majority of that government is involved in social development and services. The US spends most of it's money on controlling it's borders, interests and people by contrast. They are polar opposites in this respect. Canadians and Americans view the role of government differently. That's why when you try to compare the two you really can't.
One example: When it's time to vote in Canada, an electoral officer will come to your door and register you to vote. They will explain what documents to bring and where the polls are. Registration to vote and making sure at least everyone can is the responsibility of the government, it's expected. In the US, you have to travel to a registration center. The responsibility for registering to vote is solely that of the individual. That has a lot to do with Canada having a 70% voter turn out compared to 30% in the US. Americans expect the government to fight crime and lock up the bad guys. Canadians expect the government to provide services and otherwise stay out of their lives.
Waiting for the healthcare debate to break anytime...
Just my $0.02
05-13-2002 | 07:51 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cthree
[B]Having lived in both places I'd say on the whole Americans are more friendly than Canadians. I would also have to say however that Americans are more self absorbed. The "American Dream" is for betterment of self rather than all. Canada is much more regulated in that respect and they prefer it that way. It's a very complex cultural difference.
Canada is a much more liberal society than the US no question. There are always many sides to the coin. I consider Canada to be a more free society than the US. The US is a very conservative, religious place probably because the first settlers came here to find freedom from religious oppression in England. Moral and societal norms go back to the pilgrims.
Canada is much younger and more progressive and modern in it's cultural norms. In that respect and without the religious conservative baggage it is IMO a freer society. Freedom of speech doesn't really exist in the US despite claims to the contrary. Don't even get me started on freedom of expression!
It is a common cry of conservative politicians in the US to criticize big government. The facts don't bear this out. Canada's government is huge per capita compared to the US but the vast majority of that government is involved in social development and services. The US spends most of it's money on controlling it's borders, interests and people by contrast. They are polar opposites in this respect. Canadians and Americans view the role of government differently. That's why when you try to compare the two you really can't.
One example: When it's time to vote in Canada, an electoral officer will come to your door and register you to vote. They will explain what documents to bring and where the polls are. Registration to vote and making sure at least everyone can is the responsibility of the government, it's expected. In the US, you have to travel to a registration center. The responsibility for registering to vote is solely that of the individual. That has a lot to do with Canada having a 70% voter turn out compared to 30% in the US. Americans expect the government to fight crime and lock up the bad guys. Canadians expect the government to provide services and otherwise stay out of their lives.
[B]Having lived in both places I'd say on the whole Americans are more friendly than Canadians. I would also have to say however that Americans are more self absorbed. The "American Dream" is for betterment of self rather than all. Canada is much more regulated in that respect and they prefer it that way. It's a very complex cultural difference.
Canada is a much more liberal society than the US no question. There are always many sides to the coin. I consider Canada to be a more free society than the US. The US is a very conservative, religious place probably because the first settlers came here to find freedom from religious oppression in England. Moral and societal norms go back to the pilgrims.
Canada is much younger and more progressive and modern in it's cultural norms. In that respect and without the religious conservative baggage it is IMO a freer society. Freedom of speech doesn't really exist in the US despite claims to the contrary. Don't even get me started on freedom of expression!
It is a common cry of conservative politicians in the US to criticize big government. The facts don't bear this out. Canada's government is huge per capita compared to the US but the vast majority of that government is involved in social development and services. The US spends most of it's money on controlling it's borders, interests and people by contrast. They are polar opposites in this respect. Canadians and Americans view the role of government differently. That's why when you try to compare the two you really can't.
One example: When it's time to vote in Canada, an electoral officer will come to your door and register you to vote. They will explain what documents to bring and where the polls are. Registration to vote and making sure at least everyone can is the responsibility of the government, it's expected. In the US, you have to travel to a registration center. The responsibility for registering to vote is solely that of the individual. That has a lot to do with Canada having a 70% voter turn out compared to 30% in the US. Americans expect the government to fight crime and lock up the bad guys. Canadians expect the government to provide services and otherwise stay out of their lives.
05-13-2002 | 08:57 PM
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I'm a Canadian, living in the US for 2.5 years now, and I'd say cthree's assessment to be largely correct. One thing I have to note is the CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) has made changes lately that have changed the scenario some. They are on a big recruitment drive, so I
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