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Old 05-21-2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by senor_flojo,May 21 2009, 08:48 PM
when I was a kid, I didn't want to go to school. does that mean I shouldn't have gone?

growing up, I had a friend across the street who had a little sister (the friend and I were 10, she was 2 or 3) and she always took off her cloths and ran around the house. does that mean her family should have just allowed her to run around everywhere naked?

see where I'm going with this?
Except that, this isn't about following rules. It's about identity. If you had a son, a boy who identifies himself as being male, would you force him to wear girls' clothes?

On the other hand, I guess some people who don't have a good understanding about what it's like to be transgendered may to see this kid as breaking the "rules" in terms of sexuality.
Old 05-21-2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shareall,May 21 2009, 06:38 PM
On the other hand, I guess some people who don't have a good understanding about what it's like to be transgendered may to see this kid as breaking the "rules" in terms of sexuality.
Sexual Identity is different from Gender Identity.

I had to take a social work diversity class as part of my major, and we went over this case of canadian (I think) male twins. They were both circumsized at birth, but the machine fawked up on one of them and cut off his whole schlong ... the doctor then convinced the parents to raise the child as a girl.... Well here's how it ended up Boy raised as girl
Old 05-21-2009 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shareall,May 21 2009, 05:38 PM
Except that, this isn't about following rules. It's about identity. If you had a son, a boy who identifies himself as being male, would you force him to wear girls' clothes?

On the other hand, I guess some people who don't have a good understanding about what it's like to be transgendered may to see this kid as breaking the "rules" in terms of sexuality.
so u do know how it's like to be transgendered?
Old 05-21-2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 714s2k,May 21 2009, 09:33 PM
I had to take a social work diversity class as part of my major, and we went over this case of canadian (I think) male twins. They were both circumsized at birth, but the machine fawked up on one of them and cut off his whole schlong ... the doctor then convinced the parents to raise the child as a girl.... Well here's how it ended up Boy raised as girl
that's where I'm coming from.
Old 05-22-2009 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 714s2k,May 21 2009, 11:33 PM
Sexual Identity is different from Gender Identity.

I had to take a social work diversity class as part of my major, and we went over this case of canadian (I think) male twins. They were both circumsized at birth, but the machine fawked up on one of them and cut off his whole schlong ... the doctor then convinced the parents to raise the child as a girl.... Well here's how it ended up Boy raised as girl
Absolutely. I was actually referring to both transgendered and transsexuals, but apparently left out the second term. My bad!

I recall that case. Devastating.
Old 05-22-2009 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flagella,May 21 2009, 11:36 PM
so u do know how it's like to be transgendered?
I don't personally know what it's like to struggle with being transgendered, but I have had several conversations about it with people who do identify as transgendered. Just because I haven't experienced it personally doesn't necessarily mean I can't empathize.
Old 05-22-2009 | 12:47 PM
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interesting points. Could that case have something to do with the fact that he's actually XY vs. XX?!?

I cant understand, nor will I pretend to understand what transgender/lesbian/gay people go through. Do I accept it? sure, I dont care what they do. Am I uncomfortable? Sure. I am. Will I 'force' my son to waer boy clothes if it becomes like the previous story? Yes.
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I don't really see how you can point to the case of Mr. Reimer (born biologically male, raised female, but who rejected his female socialization in favor of his biological gender) to support forcing a child who is transgendered to perform cross-gender social functions and dress. Rather, it seems to suggest that while the performance of gender is highly socialized, there is a biological foundation that is often, but not always, linked with XX-XY genetics. Personally, I think it is exceedingly selfish to force a transgendered child to perform the gender that you as a father or a mother want that child to be.

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Originally Posted by Quick2K,May 22 2009, 01:15 PM
I don't really see how you can point to the case of Mr. Reimer (born biologically male, raised female, but who rejected his female socialization in favor of his biological gender) to support forcing a child who is transgendered to perform cross-gender social functions and dress. Rather, it seems to suggest that while the performance of gender is highly socialized, there is a biological foundation that is often, but not always, linked with XX-XY genetics. Personally, I think it is exceedingly selfish to force a transgendered child to perform the gender that you as a father or a mother want that child to be.

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Huh.. I'm not using the Reimer situation to support anything, I was just sharing a story that is relevant to Gender Identity.
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