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Old 05-20-2011, 07:36 AM
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Wow, that Ranger looks like a proper truck. Unlike their current version, which is about 20 years behind the times. Maybe more.
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Does anyone even make a compact pick up any more. I think that is all I may need at some point in the future.
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HOLY CHIT!!!


2013 Ford Fiesta ST Spy Shots



We've previously spied Ford testing its new four-cylinder EcoBoost engine in the U.S., with engineers using a sporty variant of the 2011 Ford Fiesta three-door hatchback as their guinea pig. This sporty variant will be known as the Fiesta ST when it goes on sale late next year as a 2013 model.

We’ll get our first taste of the Blue Oval’s new global effort for the ST range early next year when the bigger 2012 Ford Focus ST goes on sale. The Fiesta ST won’t bow in until after that but as we can see, Ford’s Team RS and SVT performance engineering divisions are putting prototypes through a punishing testing regime to hone performance and driving dynamics.

Today we add to the Fiesta ST's unmasking with these shots of the car during competitive testing on the notorious Nurburgring circuit in Germany.

New to the game are the Recaro seats spotted in the cabin, confirming this is more than just an EcoBoosted Fiesta. A front-mount intercooler with piping on either side can clearly be seen in earlier prototypes.

Other telltale signs that this is a performance variant of the Fiesta are the dual exhaust tips, diffuser, sporty bodykit and 17 inch alloy wheels--the latter of which were probably installed to house a set of bigger brakes. Sadly, the full roll-cage seen on these prototypes won’t be a production option.

Ford is planning to introduce a new four-cylinder EcoBoost engine to the Fiesta, which suggests that the engine in this prototype also features direct injection technology. The engine is most likely based on the regular 119 horsepower 1.6-liter four-cylinder engine from the 2011 Ford Fiesta but with the aid of EcoBoost output should be closer to the 180 horsepower mark.

The previous-generation Ford Fiesta ST sold overseas was fitted with a naturally aspirated 2.0-liter Duratec engine and had 148 horsepower on tap, so expect the new 2011 model to offer a definite power bump.

The new 2013 Ford Fiesta EcoBoost should make its debut in the second half of next year, possibly with an unveiling at the Chicago or New York auto shows that same year.

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Schizo
Wow, that Ranger looks like a proper truck. Unlike their current version, which is about 20 years behind the times. Maybe more.
Originally Posted by aashish2
Does anyone even make a compact pick up any more. I think that is all I may need at some point in the future.
Ford claims the small truck / mid-size truck market is dying, and I find that hard to believe
Ford claims because of this, and the fact that the existing Ranger sells fine with no marketing money spent, bringing a new Ranger to North America would simply cost more than it is worth

I totally agree, the existing Ranger is an antique
The Ranger, IMHO, is the last of the last of real small pickups, everybody else has stepped up to mid-size pickups
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Interesting the Fiesta. That is a redesign, right? The other day I was on Veho's site and they are no longer listing a 3 door Focus. Did Ford drop the 3dr for the new Focus? The ecoboost is only listed as being 1.6 and I am sure a few months ago when they listed a 3dr the engines available included a 2liter or larger choice.
BTW made a mistake on the Punto spec... the engine is 1.1 L not 1.6 plus it's a 1996. Still a great first car.
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Been reading Peter Egan again. Liked this part from an article about the new Mini:

Barb had fun behind the wheel, but when we pulled into the driveway, she looked around at the rather flashy art-deco dash and door panels and said, "I really like driving this car, but I don't know if I could stand to look at this interior every day. It's too contrived. I like the simplicity of the old Mini better."

Which pretty much summed up my own thoughts. The car looked right on the outside, but they'd missed the uncluttered spirit of the original within. Too trendy and Euro, without enough British reticence.

Still, I thought, if you really like driving a car, you can always look out the window...
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Originally Posted by Riche
Interesting the Fiesta. That is a redesign, right? The other day I was on Veho's site and they are no longer listing a 3 door Focus. Did Ford drop the 3dr for the new Focus? The ecoboost is only listed as being 1.6 and I am sure a few months ago when they listed a 3dr the engines available included a 2liter or larger choice.
BTW made a mistake on the Punto spec... the engine is 1.1 L not 1.6 plus it's a 1996. Still a great first car.
The Ecoboost in the Focus ST coming to USA will be a 2.0, the rumored Ecoboost for the Fiesta is a 1.6
The Focus 2.0 will deliver 247 hp and 266 ft-lbs
The Fiesta is rumored to be in the 180 hp range

The Fiesta and the Focus are both basically all new designs within the past 2-years
The Fiesta is only a 4-door and a 5-door right now state side, but the rumor mill keeps cranking away on a 3-door, and us getting it
The Focus is only a 4-door and a 5-door right now state side, but there is no rumor a 3-door will be made
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Originally Posted by Conedodger
Been reading Peter Egan again. Liked this part from an article about the new Mini:

Still, I thought, if you really like driving a car, you can always look out the window...

That is until the MINI breaks down and leaves you stranded alongside the road
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Originally Posted by Triple-H
Originally Posted by Crazy_Schizo' timestamp='1305905785' post='20596804
Wow, that Ranger looks like a proper truck. Unlike their current version, which is about 20 years behind the times. Maybe more.
Originally Posted by aashish2
Does anyone even make a compact pick up any more. I think that is all I may need at some point in the future.
Ford claims the small truck / mid-size truck market is dying, and I find that hard to believe
Ford claims because of this, and the fact that the existing Ranger sells fine with no marketing money spent, bringing a new Ranger to North America would simply cost more than it is worth

I totally agree, the existing Ranger is an antique
The Ranger, IMHO, is the last of the last of real small pickups, everybody else has stepped up to mid-size pickups
I have always liked the size of the Ranger, having owned 3 of them over the past 25 years. My current one, an 03, is starting to get up in years. I for one would like Ford to come out with a newer model here in the states.
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Originally Posted by Crazy_Schizo
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I am never buying a car again...
So you say now. Aren't you due to sell your S and buy another one soon?

I'll be disappointed if you're not rocking a different S at KSRT this year
Nope, but in 4 years I plan to buy back my Silverstone
That doesn't count - it's used!
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