Weekend plans everyone?
10-13-2003, 08:19 PM
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my balls are still pretty black and blue from yesterday ;P
eliot, remember when i used that red sharpie to coat my clear bulbs? well.. in hindsight, that was a bad idea.
a very long time ago (which i cant believe that its still on my record!!) i got nabbed for speeding. driving to endanger is what the judge called it and it landed me in jail for a weekend along with a hefty fine and a ton of community service time. anyways, he pulled me over for the red lights, then ran my license. he then came back and asked me about my prior tickets and i didnt even think about the aforementioned violation. since then i received a ticket on the west side highway doing 70 in a 50, and this is what i thought he had meant. wrong! he started lecturing me about street racing in these parts and how since i have this huge blemish on my record that i *must* be a no good street racer and that he should take me in on the spot. i explained to him that what i had did in my past was exactly that, my past. i'm 30 now and i'm smarter than i was back when. anyways, to make a long story short, he gave me a ticket for the lights, then escorted me off rt59 and made sure i was headed home. now here's the shit kicker; i live across the street from the police station where they refuel their cruisers. as i was on the phone with brian (8900s2k), guess who rolls up! by this time i had already removed one of the bulbs, and i guess he felt kinda bad about giving me such a hard time and told me that i should dispute the ticket (+2 points!!!) and that he'll meet me in court to make sure i dont get the points.
i'm not one bit mad at this whole situation. if you could see some of these idiots who hang out in spring valley, you'd easily be able to see the world from the perspective of the police and you cant blame them for trying to their job.
with that said, this morning i went out and bought some amber 7440's and some amber 194's (my side markers were hiper white), and i'm sorta legal now. lesson learned.
instead of hanging out in spring valley, everyone is always welcome at my house. i always have a case of newcastle or equivalent on hand as well as GT3 for some head to head ass kickery!
eliot, remember when i used that red sharpie to coat my clear bulbs? well.. in hindsight, that was a bad idea.
a very long time ago (which i cant believe that its still on my record!!) i got nabbed for speeding. driving to endanger is what the judge called it and it landed me in jail for a weekend along with a hefty fine and a ton of community service time. anyways, he pulled me over for the red lights, then ran my license. he then came back and asked me about my prior tickets and i didnt even think about the aforementioned violation. since then i received a ticket on the west side highway doing 70 in a 50, and this is what i thought he had meant. wrong! he started lecturing me about street racing in these parts and how since i have this huge blemish on my record that i *must* be a no good street racer and that he should take me in on the spot. i explained to him that what i had did in my past was exactly that, my past. i'm 30 now and i'm smarter than i was back when. anyways, to make a long story short, he gave me a ticket for the lights, then escorted me off rt59 and made sure i was headed home. now here's the shit kicker; i live across the street from the police station where they refuel their cruisers. as i was on the phone with brian (8900s2k), guess who rolls up! by this time i had already removed one of the bulbs, and i guess he felt kinda bad about giving me such a hard time and told me that i should dispute the ticket (+2 points!!!) and that he'll meet me in court to make sure i dont get the points.
i'm not one bit mad at this whole situation. if you could see some of these idiots who hang out in spring valley, you'd easily be able to see the world from the perspective of the police and you cant blame them for trying to their job.
with that said, this morning i went out and bought some amber 7440's and some amber 194's (my side markers were hiper white), and i'm sorta legal now. lesson learned.
instead of hanging out in spring valley, everyone is always welcome at my house. i always have a case of newcastle or equivalent on hand as well as GT3 for some head to head ass kickery!
10-14-2003, 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by bkw anyways, to make a long story short, he gave me a ticket for the lights,
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10-14-2003, 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by bkw
VTL 376 1
what does that mean eliot? ive searched the internet and i cant see if it's a violation with points.
VTL 376 1
what does that mean eliot? ive searched the internet and i cant see if it's a violation with points.
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10-14-2003, 10:24 AM
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The VTL section that you received a ticket under is here:
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=128&a=17
" S 376. Lamps, signaling devices and reflectors on vehicles. 1. (a) It
shall be unlawful to operate, drive or park a vehicle, except a
motorcycle operated during the period from one-half hour before sunrise
to one-half hour after sunset, on any public highway or street in this
state at any time during the day or night unless such vehicle is
equipped with signaling devices and reflectors of a type approved by the
commissioner which are in good working condition; or to operate, drive
or park a vehicle, except a motorcycle, on any public highway or street
in this state, during the period from one-half hour after sunset to
one-half hour before sunrise, unless such vehicle is equipped with lamps
of a type approved by the commissioner which are lighted and in good
working condition.
(b) The commissioner of motor vehicles is hereby authorized and
empowered to promulgate rules and regulations with respect to lamps,
reflectors and signaling devices, their number, type, design,
construction, location, attachment and use on vehicles being driven,
operated or parked on any public highway or street in this state. In
promulgating such rules and regulations the commissioner shall be guided
by the requirements with regard to lights, reflectors, signaling devices
and associated equipment on vehicles of rules and regulations
promulgated by the United States department of transportation.
2. Wiring used on commercial vehicles shall be of such size that when
all connections are made in an acceptable and workmanlike manner the
loss in voltage will not be sufficient to cause a lamp to produce less
than the minimum candlepower, under normal operating conditions, when
the lamp is in good working order. All wiring should be enclosed in
weather proof and abrasion proof cable or conduit except wiring which is
completely enclosed within the body of the vehicle.
3. All lights, signals and reflectors shall be of a type and design
approved by the commissioner. No light having a candlepower rating in
excess of thirty-two candle power shall be used on any vehicle, unless
it is of a type approved by the commissioner. The provisions of section
three hundred seventy-five of this chapter governing the approval of
equipment and the adjustment of headlamps shall apply to the equipment
and headlamps required by this section. The commissioner is hereby
authorized and empowered to adopt and from time to time amend such
regulations not inconsistent with this section, governing the size,
type, construction, location, and use of lights, signals and reflectors,
including the exemption of specific vehicles from the requirements of
this section where the construction of such vehicles makes compliance
herewith impracticable, or impossible.
4. All existing provisions of this chapter governing the use of
headlamps, front parking lamps and license plate lamps and other lamps,
reflectors, lights and directional signals on vehicles shall continue to
apply, except to the extent irreconcilably inconsistent with the
provisions of this section or regulations promulgated thereunder.
S 376-a. Defective equipment. 1. If any vehicle is driven or operated
on a public highway in violation of any provision of section three
hundred seventy-five, three hundred seventy-six or three hundred
eighty-one of this article relating to required equipment or its proper
repair and adjustment, other than a provision relating to service
brakes, any police officer shall be authorized to take such action as
may be required or permitted by the provisions of this section.
2. If the vehicle is being operated or driven in violation of the
provisions of this chapter relating to the use or proper repair or
adjustment of headlamps, and there is not in operation at least one
headlamp lighted and adjusted as required by law, such officer shall
issue a summons for such violation and shall order the operator to
remove such vehicle from the highway. In such event, such vehicle shall
not again be driven or operated until such time as the vehicle can be
driven or operated without being in violation of such provisions.
3. If the vehicle is being driven or operated in violation of any
provisions of section three hundred seventy-five, three hundred
seventy-six or three hundred eighty-one of this article relating to
required equipment, except a violation described in subdivision two of
this section, subdivision forty-seven of section three hundred
seventy-five of this article, and except a violation relating to service
brakes, such officer shall issue a summons, provided, however, that a
summons shall not be issued if, in the discretion and at the request of
such officer, the defect is corrected in the presence of such officer.
The refusal of a police officer to permit the repair of any defect in
his presence shall not be reviewable, and shall not be a defense to any
violation charged in a summons issued pursuant to the provisions of this
subdivision.
4. Any complaint issued for any violation of section three hundred
seventy-five, three hundred seventy-six or three hundred eighty-one of
this article relative to required equipment, except a violation
described in subdivision two of this section, subdivision forty-seven of
section three hundred seventy-five of this article, and except for a
violation relating to service brakes, shall be dismissed by the court
before which the summons is returnable if the violation as set forth in
the summons is corrected not later than one-half hour after sunset on
the first full business day after the issuance of the summons and proof
of such correction as set forth in subdivision five of this section is
submitted to the court. For the purposes of this subdivision, "business
day" shall mean any calendar day except Sunday, or the following
business holidays: New Year`s Day, Washington`s Birthday, Memorial Day,
Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans` Day, Thanksgiving
Day, and Christmas Day.
5. (a) Acceptable proof of repair or adjustment shall consist of
submission to the court on or before the return date of the summons
either:
(i) a statement of correction from an officially designated state
inspection station duly executed by the person performing or making such
inspection and bearing the facility number of the state inspection
station, or
(ii) a statement of correction from an automobile repair shop on the
letterhead of such repair shop duly executed by the person who made the
correction, or
(iii) a statement of correction from any registrant having more than
twenty-five vehicles registered and having a fleet maintenance program
administered by the registrant, duly executed by the person performing
or making such correction and countersigned by the fleet maintenance
supervisor, or
(iv) a signed statement of any police officer that the necessary
corrections have been made, or
(v) evidence acceptable to the court from any person that he or she
completed the repair together with proof of purchase of the equipment
needed for the repair, or
(vi) in the discretion of the court, submission of the vehicle to the
court for inspection not later than one-half hour after the next ensuing
sunset.
(b) The statement required by this subdivision shall be directed to
the court having jurisdiction of the alleged violation, shall be
affirmed as true under penalty of perjury, and shall include:
(i) the name, occupation and position of the person making the
statement;
(ii) the time and date that the repairs or inspection were made; and
(iii) a statement that the defective equipment, cited in the summons
or information, on the vehicle in question, is in proper working order.
6. The provisions of this section shall not be construed to affect any
cause of action or the rights or liabilities of any person with respect
to damages or injuries caused or suffered as a result of the operation
of a motor vehicle."
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=128&a=17
" S 376. Lamps, signaling devices and reflectors on vehicles. 1. (a) It
shall be unlawful to operate, drive or park a vehicle, except a
motorcycle operated during the period from one-half hour before sunrise
to one-half hour after sunset, on any public highway or street in this
state at any time during the day or night unless such vehicle is
equipped with signaling devices and reflectors of a type approved by the
commissioner which are in good working condition; or to operate, drive
or park a vehicle, except a motorcycle, on any public highway or street
in this state, during the period from one-half hour after sunset to
one-half hour before sunrise, unless such vehicle is equipped with lamps
of a type approved by the commissioner which are lighted and in good
working condition.
(b) The commissioner of motor vehicles is hereby authorized and
empowered to promulgate rules and regulations with respect to lamps,
reflectors and signaling devices, their number, type, design,
construction, location, attachment and use on vehicles being driven,
operated or parked on any public highway or street in this state. In
promulgating such rules and regulations the commissioner shall be guided
by the requirements with regard to lights, reflectors, signaling devices
and associated equipment on vehicles of rules and regulations
promulgated by the United States department of transportation.
2. Wiring used on commercial vehicles shall be of such size that when
all connections are made in an acceptable and workmanlike manner the
loss in voltage will not be sufficient to cause a lamp to produce less
than the minimum candlepower, under normal operating conditions, when
the lamp is in good working order. All wiring should be enclosed in
weather proof and abrasion proof cable or conduit except wiring which is
completely enclosed within the body of the vehicle.
3. All lights, signals and reflectors shall be of a type and design
approved by the commissioner. No light having a candlepower rating in
excess of thirty-two candle power shall be used on any vehicle, unless
it is of a type approved by the commissioner. The provisions of section
three hundred seventy-five of this chapter governing the approval of
equipment and the adjustment of headlamps shall apply to the equipment
and headlamps required by this section. The commissioner is hereby
authorized and empowered to adopt and from time to time amend such
regulations not inconsistent with this section, governing the size,
type, construction, location, and use of lights, signals and reflectors,
including the exemption of specific vehicles from the requirements of
this section where the construction of such vehicles makes compliance
herewith impracticable, or impossible.
4. All existing provisions of this chapter governing the use of
headlamps, front parking lamps and license plate lamps and other lamps,
reflectors, lights and directional signals on vehicles shall continue to
apply, except to the extent irreconcilably inconsistent with the
provisions of this section or regulations promulgated thereunder.
S 376-a. Defective equipment. 1. If any vehicle is driven or operated
on a public highway in violation of any provision of section three
hundred seventy-five, three hundred seventy-six or three hundred
eighty-one of this article relating to required equipment or its proper
repair and adjustment, other than a provision relating to service
brakes, any police officer shall be authorized to take such action as
may be required or permitted by the provisions of this section.
2. If the vehicle is being operated or driven in violation of the
provisions of this chapter relating to the use or proper repair or
adjustment of headlamps, and there is not in operation at least one
headlamp lighted and adjusted as required by law, such officer shall
issue a summons for such violation and shall order the operator to
remove such vehicle from the highway. In such event, such vehicle shall
not again be driven or operated until such time as the vehicle can be
driven or operated without being in violation of such provisions.
3. If the vehicle is being driven or operated in violation of any
provisions of section three hundred seventy-five, three hundred
seventy-six or three hundred eighty-one of this article relating to
required equipment, except a violation described in subdivision two of
this section, subdivision forty-seven of section three hundred
seventy-five of this article, and except a violation relating to service
brakes, such officer shall issue a summons, provided, however, that a
summons shall not be issued if, in the discretion and at the request of
such officer, the defect is corrected in the presence of such officer.
The refusal of a police officer to permit the repair of any defect in
his presence shall not be reviewable, and shall not be a defense to any
violation charged in a summons issued pursuant to the provisions of this
subdivision.
4. Any complaint issued for any violation of section three hundred
seventy-five, three hundred seventy-six or three hundred eighty-one of
this article relative to required equipment, except a violation
described in subdivision two of this section, subdivision forty-seven of
section three hundred seventy-five of this article, and except for a
violation relating to service brakes, shall be dismissed by the court
before which the summons is returnable if the violation as set forth in
the summons is corrected not later than one-half hour after sunset on
the first full business day after the issuance of the summons and proof
of such correction as set forth in subdivision five of this section is
submitted to the court. For the purposes of this subdivision, "business
day" shall mean any calendar day except Sunday, or the following
business holidays: New Year`s Day, Washington`s Birthday, Memorial Day,
Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans` Day, Thanksgiving
Day, and Christmas Day.
5. (a) Acceptable proof of repair or adjustment shall consist of
submission to the court on or before the return date of the summons
either:
(i) a statement of correction from an officially designated state
inspection station duly executed by the person performing or making such
inspection and bearing the facility number of the state inspection
station, or
(ii) a statement of correction from an automobile repair shop on the
letterhead of such repair shop duly executed by the person who made the
correction, or
(iii) a statement of correction from any registrant having more than
twenty-five vehicles registered and having a fleet maintenance program
administered by the registrant, duly executed by the person performing
or making such correction and countersigned by the fleet maintenance
supervisor, or
(iv) a signed statement of any police officer that the necessary
corrections have been made, or
(v) evidence acceptable to the court from any person that he or she
completed the repair together with proof of purchase of the equipment
needed for the repair, or
(vi) in the discretion of the court, submission of the vehicle to the
court for inspection not later than one-half hour after the next ensuing
sunset.
(b) The statement required by this subdivision shall be directed to
the court having jurisdiction of the alleged violation, shall be
affirmed as true under penalty of perjury, and shall include:
(i) the name, occupation and position of the person making the
statement;
(ii) the time and date that the repairs or inspection were made; and
(iii) a statement that the defective equipment, cited in the summons
or information, on the vehicle in question, is in proper working order.
6. The provisions of this section shall not be construed to affect any
cause of action or the rights or liabilities of any person with respect
to damages or injuries caused or suffered as a result of the operation
of a motor vehicle."
10-14-2003, 10:34 AM
#68
Registered User
Hey Eliot,
I hate to hijack this thread but I couldn't find this answer on the web. I got pulled over for 85 mph in a 55 mph zone and the NYS trooper, without me asking, only charged me with a seat belt violation (looks like Sec 1221 sub c3, hard to tell from the copy). I mailed the ticket to the court pleading guilty thinking I caught a break. How much can I expect the fine to be? I assume this means no points, just "pay the man" and say thank you sir.
I hate to hijack this thread but I couldn't find this answer on the web. I got pulled over for 85 mph in a 55 mph zone and the NYS trooper, without me asking, only charged me with a seat belt violation (looks like Sec 1221 sub c3, hard to tell from the copy). I mailed the ticket to the court pleading guilty thinking I caught a break. How much can I expect the fine to be? I assume this means no points, just "pay the man" and say thank you sir.
10-14-2003, 10:59 AM
#70
Registered User
Thanks. I thought at first he was charging me with both and I started to argue that I had my belt on I took it off after I was pulled over to get my wallet out. I know I wasn't doing 85, only 78 but I figured I had to take my lumps. If I fought it I figure he would bring up the speed or that it basically isn't fightable. Who knew.