jtpassat

damn.. you did sell it too cheap 2k and now he's flipping for 4k

Bass

na i wanted it gone and with the CEL on it couldn't get a sticker - plus Jim gave me a great deal when i bought it..

boltonblue

the guy who flipped it may have done you a huge favor.
by selling it he assumed all lemon law liability.

Bass

yup

he know the CEL was on - heck didn't even test drive the thing

elmmx5

Just hope the dad who called you forges a bill of sale\back of the title and is able to get it registered. Since you left the title open, you left the middleman the ability to sell it to anyone, avoid getting taxed on it, and disappear completely. If things get ugly, you're the only once the dad can attack.

Bass

f him - i will go to court all day long and say i sold the car to Jose

Legal Bill

The current add says "title in hand." Whatever they have, Steve is not signing it. If they have Steve's old title, and plan to fill in names, then they are forging documents and not paying sales tax. Steve may have to explain things, but the truth is the best defense to this sort of stupid lie.

elmmx5

What they have is a title that Steve filled out and signed already with no buyer info. If Jose screws someone and skips registering it in his name or transferring it to a dealer, the paper trail leads back to Steve. I'd never suggest Steve lies and writes up another bill of sale, but this still might come back to him either way.

Bass

and i tossed the bill of sale Jose signed, last week thinking i wouldn't need it again

Legal Bill

And that would be a forgery. "Comes back" is a meaningless term. Someone can call Steve, and Steve can say I didn't sell it to you, and I did not write your name on the title. You cannot produce proof of any payment from you to me, and you canot produce a bill of sale from me to you.

Steve throwing away the bill of sale is, of course, a huge mistake. Steve should try to recreate all of the information he has about the buyer. Steve should also make copies of the current Craigs List add to at least have some record to show that someone else was selling the car at this point, not him. Steve should keep whatever contact information the current owner gave him.