mas

chaz01,

I have a feeling your garits are different from the one I tried. Do yours say observe as well - toyo observe garit ?

FormerH22a4

For the record, I've Vtec'd 172 times this winter.
About the sidewalls, the LM-22s are like an all season tire, handles great in the dry and only feel a bit squishy if pushed really hard.

koala

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FormerH22a4
[B]For the record, I've Vtec'd 172 times this winter.

chaz01

Mas,

They might say observe on them, I'll have to check. They do say HT and are only H rated (130mph). I know what you're talking about with the VTECing. the Pirellis are probably a much better tire. The toyo's are definitely squishy but I'm just happy to be able to drive in four seasons, didn't know if that would be possible when I bought the car.

I'll be putting a new set of SO2's on the rear this spring and am looking forward to summer like everyone else out here.

This winter was waaaayyyyyy too long!

koala

I don't really think there is any winter tire out there with a speed rating higher than H because of the compounds they use.

I took mine up to 200 kph (125 mph) (long story as to why I did this, but lets say I had a "good" reason)... car felt alright at that speed... but its not something I'd normally do.

Sleepwalker

I'm new to the S2K community, as my '04 won't arrive for a couple of months yet. Judging by what I read here, should I count on buying a set of snows as soon as I get my S (November, probably)? Does a St. Louis winter warrant tires different than what will come as stock? Any help would be most appreciated!

xviper

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sleepwalker
[B]I'm new to the S2K community, as my '04 won't arrive for a couple of months yet.

Sleepwalker

Thanks, XVIPER! Sounds like good advice. We just moved here from the Chicago area in Feb of 2002, so I'm still a little unsure of what to expect. St. Louisans said last winter was particularly snowy, but compared to Chicago (and Milwaukee before that!) winters, there sure weren't many days when I would worry about driving the S. Still, it's a good reason to hang onto the ol' Prizm and Rav4.

boiler

St. Louis is right on the border between snow or ice/freezing rain. With the hills (it's a river city) and the ice storms that you will get, winter driving can be a bit interesting. You might just discover a new route home when the roads are iced over.

To be honest, I moved from there in 1973 and haven't driven in the winter there, since then. I would imagine that they are very good at keeping the main roads clear. I did like the chemical that they used to use on the roads instead of salt.

Xviper is correct about the OEM tires. They are without a doubt, summer tires only. Having said that, this car goes very well in the winter with snow tires mounted on it. If you have a choice, drive the beater. I drive mine all year, as does xviper, and I have a lot of fun driving mine in the winter.

Enjoy,
Bob

xviper

Bob - CAREFUL! You'll have this whole board think you and I are both NUTS!