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Old 08-30-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Aug 29 2008, 07:07 PM
I can't figure why RIMM didn't get a lift after the Bold started selling in Canada. Does look attractive today. So does GOOG!

I got into T at $30-and-change a few days back. Can't believe it got that low.
I think Rimm didn't get a boost for the bold being sold in Canada because it was just a sell off day for the market.
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Originally Posted by PearlwhiteS2k,Aug 30 2008, 10:01 AM
I like other sectors too. For example for fast food I like YUM and Canadian Banks I like BMO, RY, BNS, & TD. TD just increased there dividends to .61 cent each quarter. Also the Canadian bank doesn't have much loans tied into the sub prime crap.

Why I like tech? Tech is a strong sector going towards back to school and towards the X-mas season. IMO AAPL is just getting started taking away market shares from other PC makers. Last year and this year AAPL offers students free I-Pod with a purchase of any AAPL computers. Meaning, it's even more attractive for a student to buy a Mac over a PC.

RIMM is still going to be able to holds it's grounds for awhile because not everyone can afford the I-Phone. Rogers is the provider for Canada and they are ripping the Canadians offer big time on the data plan. The I-phone was hot in Canada until people found out how crazy expensive the data plan was. Also I believe the cell phone market is big enough for AAPL and Rimm to nice growth together.
Hahha I know you like other sectors, I was just pointing out that you like to be overweight on Tech sector in terms of diversity.
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Originally Posted by dyu626,Aug 30 2008, 11:07 AM
Hahha I know you like other sectors, I was just pointing out that you like to be overweight on Tech sector in terms of diversity.
I am overweight in hot chicks as well.....and I am not going to diversify my holdings.
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Originally Posted by lOOkatme,Aug 30 2008, 12:26 PM
I am overweight in hot chicks as well.....and I am not going to diversify my holdings.


Let's see how Sept will turn out for us
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Looks like NG is going to have a run up if this storm rips through the gulf.....especially at a cat 4-5.


Land based drillers will profit....UPL, XTO, CHK, KWK, GMXR.

I'll play it through UPL and KWK.
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^ Just make sure you sell before the storm actually hits (if it does). The price of oil dropped 10% the day after Katrina hit and this time will be no different. The market NEVER underestimates the extent of the disruption. Expect oil back to $115 the second the thing makes landfall. Same for NG.
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NG already had some weirdness. It over-shot a few days ago and then slumped, while the storm continued on course. I'm sure it will run up again but I wonder if it'll correct sooner-than-expected again?
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My theory on Oil and NG is that they are both on a down cycle and being held up by supply concerns. Their natural course would otherwise be down. Every rally in the price has failed intraday. The price goes up 5% and then finishes flat or down for the day.

I would not be swimming upstream with this trade. Very dangerous. There are some stubborn energy bulls who would say I'm wrong but they will be ground up and served at McDonalds as 2 all beef patties in the end.
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I also agree they are on a down cycle. There is a ton of news of all sorts of new technologies and findings that are going to solve our little dilemma any time now. The retracement from the highs at this point though is substantial. GDP figures will continue to disappoint in Europe as the developing world does its best to maintain its already fantastic levels of growth. The U.S. has, best case scenario, 12-16 months left of pain and nervousness.

However, there are a few select ones out there, like RIG in all its prospects/cash flow/decreasing debt/proposed shareholder handouts/back log/deep water monopoly/8 P/E vs a 20 P/E only a few years ago, that should be bought if you lack energy in your portfolio around these levels for the longer term. I've owned EEV and DZZ for a month now, so my hesitation is not just talk-energy is not the safe bet it used to be in general. Obviously if you are down 30% on your oil holdings you already know that

I own RIG/NOV that are both teetering between red/green for me and are partial positions. I'll pick up some APA in the future.

Next week should be fun although I'm starting a major side project that will take up a ton of my time, estimating almost 40 hours a week. Oh well, you only live once, get rich or die trying.
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You should have got into RIG a year ago when Jim Cramer was hot for it. The move in RIG I think is over. It had its run up and now all of those things you site are priced in. That is unless you think there is something in RIG that everyone has missed but after a solid year of pumping by Cramer I think it has given its all.

Why put money in RIG for a few percent when you can get the same return in cash with no risk? It's down 11% YTD, 22% in the past 6 months. You're on the back slope with this trade me thinks.


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