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Old 12-09-2008 | 12:14 PM
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^ same. holding tight until then.
Old 12-09-2008 | 12:20 PM
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Not being able to hold the 900 s&p mark doesn't look very promising in the near term.
Old 12-09-2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stockae92,Dec 9 2008, 09:51 AM
i don't know what defines a bull market

but CMI said they are going to cut 500 jobs and their stocks goes up just over 10%
Thats because CMI isnt doing that bad. Theyre cutting jobs just to keep pace just like alot of other companies are doing. Not everyone is in the tank...but its a great excuse to cut some dead weight and extra costs.

Disclosure: I work for CMI indirectly...IE through a contracting agency.
Old 12-09-2008 | 09:21 PM
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As long as the government doesn't step in and do something unbelievably idiotic like this carbon limiting/'green' garbage when the economy is bleeding from the throat, the economy will work itself out.

For example, CMI has heavy exposure to steel prices last time I checked. With a strong balance sheet and a solid business model, your decreased revenue is accompanied by lowered costs for your fixed expenses, i.e. labor (higher unemployment), rent (lower property values), inputs (steel cut in 1/2 and 1/2 again) which aids a recovery. Firms that could survive with triple the current commodity prices with heavy exposure will benefit from this decline over the next 2-3 quarters.
Old 12-11-2008 | 09:02 PM
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Wow no bailout. China and Japan markets in the red quite a bit. DJIA index futures down over 300. How bloody will tomorrow be?
Old 12-11-2008 | 09:23 PM
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lol wow... tomorrow is gonna be fun.
Old 12-11-2008 | 10:35 PM
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Don't worry, Bush/Paulson will save the day by utilizing TARP funds.
Old 12-12-2008 | 07:25 AM
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Goldmand Sachs (remember them -- the guys that predicted $200/bbl crude?) have lowered their prediction yet again. As of this morning, they are predicting 2009 to average $45/bbl (their last prediction had been $75/bbl) and they are calling for a low during 1st quarter 2009 @ $30/bbl. They further predict refining margins to return to lows seen in 1998. Further predicting 2010 @ $70 (down from $100) and 2011 @ $90 (own from $120).
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:41 AM
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Why is the market rallying even if the asian markets were down 5-6% because of the auto bailout failing? It seems that the market always rallies in the morning despite bad news.
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:46 AM
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i am thinking about the same thing, but that could be what AZDavid said. Bush will save the big 3 no matter what.



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