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Old 12-03-2012 | 09:14 AM
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My review on this bar, its install and the seller. Being forewarned is being forearmed:
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/993...r-bar-replica/
Old 12-03-2012 | 10:18 AM
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The lack of instructions and misaligned holes seem like legitimate concerns, but I think that the complaint about rubbing on the aftermarket coilovers is a bit much.
Old 12-03-2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 9k_on_occasion
The lack of instructions and misaligned holes seem like legitimate concerns, but I think that the complaint about rubbing on the aftermarket coilovers is a bit much.
Why is it a complaint to report what occurred? If it can help someone with a similar setup decide whether or not they want to scratch up their new coilovers then why not disclose? And it ain't just rubbing, it's wedged on it! Will post pics later.
Old 12-03-2012 | 12:26 PM
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After hearing about all the issues with the Saner bar, I decided to shell out the extra cash for a Gendron. The bar fits perfectly, and has not fitment issues with my aftermarket shocks (TC Kline DA Konis). The gendron had some problems with aftermarket shocks in the past, but I think he changed the the bar arms. The only problem I've had is an endlink that worked it's way loose and started clunking. I little bit of wrenching/cursing in Apeatwo's(Jeff)driveway and it was fine. The few times I've need to call the shop with some questions(pre and post purchase), I talked with the man himself. He spent 2-3 minutes telling me how to fix the problem, and another 10-15 talking about autocrossing and racing. Great customer service. I've heard good things about the saner bar if you can solve the fitment issues, but I've also heard that some bad things about some clunky and noisy end links. If the bar came from the seller w/misaligned holes, he should have either 1)Not sold you the bar until he had a proper one ready, or 2) offered to ship you a bar with the correct holes. If you can get it working, then great, but if not you might want to look at a Gendron, ARE, or Comptech bar. They come up for sale in the RC forum every now and then.

Edit: It sounds like the seller was willing to ship you a replacement bracket. At least the guy is trying to make good on his sale and giving you a solution to your situation.
Old 12-03-2012 | 02:20 PM
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You're far too hard on the seller. He warned you ahead of time of a possible fitment issue and has offered to make it right. What more do you want him to do? He couldn't be certain if yours would be a problem before it shipped, and since it is, he's willing to make it right.

You should tone down that aspect of your review.

You don't blame Target for selling you a faulty Norelco shaver, do you? Especially if they offer to exchange it or make it right?
Old 12-03-2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by animeS2K
You're far too hard on the seller. He warned you ahead of time of a possible fitment issue and has offered to make it right. What more do you want him to do? He couldn't be certain if yours would be a problem before it shipped, and since it is, he's willing to make it right.

You should tone down that aspect of your review.

You don't blame Target for selling you a faulty Norelco shaver, do you? Especially if they offer to exchange it or make it right?
You need to learn to read. He'd done no such thing which you claim. The offer to rectify things and requesting my address, again(for a third time only came publicly today) after this review AND once the install is completed.

I'm not toning down a damn thing. You write your reviews the way you want and leave others to theirs. How dare you act like you know what transpired when you're not even involved? If you don't like what you read move along. Clearly wasn't meant for your eyes, but for those like KaNgArOo who were about to jump on this but are concerned about the very things I'd reported.

As for your lame Target analogy, I would absolutely hold them accountable if prior to buying that Norelco shaver I was assured everything was tip top and ready to go, only to find out I'd have to run out to Radio shack and buy electronics to make the thing turn on... especially when I took the time to specify that I wanted no surprises.

Either disclose fully PRIOR to taking cash or risk the ire of your customers once you surprise them with an "Oh, by the way..." pm after the money's deposited.


Jimmy Roadster, this bar is not a Saner but a replica of. That said, Billman showed me his Gendron bars and that will now be my upgrade. I just wanted to try out something less expensive to see what the excitement was all about. I absolutely love it but the jury's still out on how much damage it does to my new coilovers. So far, I'm not getting any clunking noise but that's probably because the damn thing is so completely wedged/grinding against the coilover towers and can barely move. I do believed it's balanced things nicely and haven't disconnected the rear bar.
Old 12-04-2012 | 05:03 AM
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The most problematic part of installing any sway bar is getting the endlinks to fit right. My beef with this part is that if you gonna charge about twice the price of some other sway bars, you should make sure that it fits correctly.
Instead, the manufacturer just threw in some universal endlinks and some brackets that didn't fit right....
Endlinks are too fat and rub against the coilovers (I had the same problem when I tried to install similar set on my car, I later reverted to OEM endlinks). I believe that this clearly should be stated in the description of the part, like a disclamer or something.

Yes, we all have different experience installung and using aftermarket parts, sometimes we can make them work, anticipate problems and find walkarounds. But for people that just started buying aftermarket parts that is not obvious. If I was in Tom's place, I would expect the swaybar and endlink KIT, that I payed significan amount of money for, to fit with ZERO problems. I would expect to pay extra for the piece of mind that the parts were designed to fit correctly.

Another silly thing is to expect that someone is going to be installing aftermarket swaybars on stock suspension. I think that it is rarely the case. Remember, if you want to customize your suspension, first thing to dial in is spring rates, then matching shocks, and lastly, the antiroll bars (that are used to finetune car's behavior in different track conditions).
Old 12-04-2012 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Olegator
If I was in Tom's place, I would expect the swaybar and endlink KIT, that I payed significan amount of money for, to fit with ZERO problems. I would expect to pay extra for the piece of mind that the parts were designed to fit correctly.
Thanks Oleg.

That is precisely why I always make sure to ask pertinent questions prior to purchasing. I've always called a spade a spade and give credit when due. I'll be damned if I praise something unworthy of praise.

Thanks again for making the unfittable fit
Old 12-04-2012 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kcrew
Originally Posted by animeS2K' timestamp='1354576824' post='22187639
You're far too hard on the seller. He warned you ahead of time of a possible fitment issue and has offered to make it right. What more do you want him to do? He couldn't be certain if yours would be a problem before it shipped, and since it is, he's willing to make it right.

You should tone down that aspect of your review.

You don't blame Target for selling you a faulty Norelco shaver, do you? Especially if they offer to exchange it or make it right?
You need to learn to read. He'd done no such thing which you claim. The offer to rectify things and requesting my address, again(for a third time only came publicly today) after this review AND once the install is completed.
I was going by the posts in the other thread, where it was mentioned that the seller had offered to make it right, and I believe you said that he made you aware of some quality control issues. Plus, it's a REPLICA. I don't care what part it is, a replica isn't going to be as good as the original.

It just seemed to me (and others in the other thread) that you were placing undue blame on a distributor for a product he did not produce. I'm glad you got it all worked out in the end (for now, anyway).
Old 12-05-2012 | 08:45 PM
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Thanks. Ryan has promised to personally install future products prior to vouching for their fitment.
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