In this case, square = non-staggered. Front/rear are the same width.

 

k glad I was right with the first guess lol.

 

I wasn't around in the really, really old days, but Skip, didn't you start with the show thing and transition to the show-and-go and then just go thing?

 

Yes, and it is that experience that led to my previous post. Everyone needs to do what they want to do. "Back in the day" we used to look down on folks who bought knock-off parts, as if we were better than them or elitists. As the market grew bigger and the demographic changed, there became an increasing divide in the typical owner. In some ways it was good; in others, not as much.

The point to the above is that me saying to Ron, "DON'T DO IT!" is not my place. Each individual is exactly that- an individual. That was clearly evident on the track yesterday between Jim, George, and me! That need for individuality, however, does not override my desire to see good people succeed. If my experience can in any way help with a decision-making process, then I owe it to my friends to share it- not cram it down their collective throats. There are some serious drawbacks to building a dual-purpose car as well as a significant sense of accomplishment. I may be partial, but I truly believe my S2000 was one of the cleanest looking, yet modded, examples capable of some serious straightline speeds before N.E.R.D. Racing.

*For those who didn't or don't know, the sound system consisting of two 10" JL subs, two JL amps, a 5 farad capacitor, PS2, and Alpine dvd-based nav system were all removable in 20 minutes for track or autox use. Unfortunately, the fiberglassed, Sebring-painted tool well used as the sub enclosure had to stay in place.

My advice to Ron was more geared toward tire/wheel selection and what was to be asked of them. Any one of us who've run-what-we've-brung and then moved on to a grippier, purpose tire can offer the same advise. Asking a lesser tire to do more than what it's capable of is reducing the life cycle of that tire as well as possibly putting one in a bad spot. I'm not the end-all-be-all of track info... far from it. I spent well over $100k gross on my S2000. Far be it for me to tell another person not to do or buy something. I'm simply offering my experience.

 

Skip's advice is the same as what I have done. I have Star Specs on my original AP2 wheels for the street (in summer) and Nitto NT01 on non staggered track wheels (Thanks Skip ). If it rains at the track, I can always switch to the Star Specs. NT01's blow in the wet worse than bald RA1's. I think 18's may cause some rub issues on the inside of the front wheel wells, if you try to go wide. I am no expert on wheel/tire sizes or brands, but Skip, Pete, George and Rob have been experimenting for a long time. I always follow their advice.

Good luck and put a 100 pound return spring on your throttle.

 

Update on the Lemons car:
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Thanks, Skip. I appreciate you always giving your most honest advice. The double duty wheels/tires is not really my plan, I would like to do the same thing I did on my last set up. Different street wheel/tires for street and track use but this time I'm thinking of going square set up for both even with my LFD (Lead Food Disease ). Like what you said, I may just find a cheaper track wheels this time unless I find another BC F1 on 18s .

I didn't know that Princess was a show and go car way back then until I saw some of your old pics. This makes your advice that more valuable to me but to be clear, I agree with Lou's statement. I listen and value every trackies track advice may it be driving technique, set up, and parts advice, just like the windshield wiper removal for faster time. J/k

 

Nice!

Today has been a very long day for me also. Changed engine oil, trans and diff fluid, installed R/L fenders liners, installed battery tie down, adjusted trunk alignment, adjusted HT to eliminate wind noise, cleaned all wheels and 500 bucks up in smoke and have not washed the car yet. Tomorrow continue to install the rest of the front under body panels. Note to self, don't lose any plastic pins and under body panel bolts, they are very expensive! . Maybe wash the car if not that windy anymore, armor all interior and clean engine bay. And then continue fixing my daughter's Jeep.

 

Don't ever use Armor All on anything! Use 303 on vinyl and leather products for leather. AA will trash things over time.

About that 100 lbs. throttle return spring.

 

I only ran 225 fronts and 245 rear shaved and not shaved RA1's on the S2000. Shaved was way better. On miata full tread RA1's are fine, slower than shaved but you dont get the scary squirming under braking that the S2000 did. I tried 888's in the Miata and corded them in 4 weekends, they were about 1.5 seconds faster.

Everyone got much faster when they went to no-stagger tires, in 2007 and later. I was driving a vette then.


I bought used and really curbed up wheels for track use. They went to Skip at some point, I think Matt (topgear) might have them now?

Skip, had a great time Karting yesterday, even thought I was the "Ghost" car....