GruppeM/M's Intake
08-19-2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 9000rpm inc.,Aug 16 2005, 02:11 PM
I agree. If its $2k+ we're talking about, go ASM. I think medicalstudent has it on order. I always thought the GruppeM could be obtained for about the cost of the J's. Hmm, guess I was wrong.
I've driven in 2 E46 M3s with the GruppeM. It is quite possibly one the worlds best engineered intake for that car. You don't really feel its performance through the first few gears but when you start to gain speed (50+mph) it just pulls and pulls and pulls. I always thought it would work well with the F20/22C since it is also a very demanding, high revving engine.
I've driven in 2 E46 M3s with the GruppeM. It is quite possibly one the worlds best engineered intake for that car. You don't really feel its performance through the first few gears but when you start to gain speed (50+mph) it just pulls and pulls and pulls. I always thought it would work well with the F20/22C since it is also a very demanding, high revving engine.
08-20-2005 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueS2000Boy,Aug 19 2005, 07:57 PM
whats funny is thats possibly the worst intake made for the E46 M3. in fact so many guys on the M3 boards were loosing power when they dynoed it most of the site spons stopped selling it.
Most of the "dyno power" they claim is not reflected when the car attains speed and positive air pressure. This is a ram air charger and does exactly that. It might show losses on a dyno because it was never engineered for a stationey WOT reading
08-20-2005 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueS2000Boy,Aug 19 2005, 11:57 PM
whats funny is thats possibly the worst intake made for the E46 M3. in fact so many guys on the M3 boards were loosing power when they dynoed it most of the site spons stopped selling it.
08-20-2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mav,Aug 20 2005, 06:59 AM
Dude what are you talking about? The GruppeM intake is known as one of the best for the E46 M3.
08-20-2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueS2000Boy,Aug 20 2005, 03:07 PM
all you have to do is search on either M3 boards and there are plenty of post about it from many companies talking it down.
Dynos are only ONE of the factors I look at when deciding on an intake. The car is moving when its accelerating, which is not what its doing on a dyno.
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08-21-2005 | 01:11 PM
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08-22-2005 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueS2000Boy,Aug 20 2005, 07:07 PM
all you have to do is search on either M3 boards and there are plenty of post about it from many companies talking it down.
I don't treat the dyno as the final tell all. I never dyno'ed my M3, but I know the GruppeM intake had a significant difference in mine at least. Above 4000 RPMs, the car pulled harder.
08-23-2005 | 11:17 AM
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UPDATE: 8/23 - I have a contact at GruppeM Japan that can get this intake shipped EMS to the states for about the price of the Mugen Intake.
I might jump on it...if anyone else is interested please let me know maybe we can get a group buy going
I might jump on it...if anyone else is interested please let me know maybe we can get a group buy going
08-23-2005 | 12:08 PM
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GruppeM USA/RennSport told me yesterday that he can get it for $1700 shipped. I'm planning to get this immediately after my wedding in December.
But if this goes through for the price of the Mugen intake ($1300), I'm definitely interested now.
But if this goes through for the price of the Mugen intake ($1300), I'm definitely interested now.