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Should i get an S2K, i need some answers

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Old 07-27-2008 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ghahat,Jul 26 2008, 01:08 PM
some of the car reviews ive read on the s2k mentioned that it was very enjoyable how the s2k progressively pushed its tail out and was very safe it you were not stupid and trying top get it sideways (very different from stepping the tail out a little).

SNIP

more like this (with NO PEDESTRIANS in my case, lest anyone get offended)
note the lack of tire smoking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8wtbxzXLU
The s2k in the right hands can perform as you see in the vid, ie someone who knows what they are doing as compared to someone who thinks they know what they are doing. Unfortunately...there are far more who think they know what they are doing as compared to those who really do.

BTW...that vid is EXACTLY the kind of driving I had envisioned that you wanted to do.

No, the s2k does not progressively push the tail out and it is NOT very safe. It will bite the hell out of someone who does not respect it. The pic below is what happened to a driver who had his car just a few weeks who was trying to drive like in the vid you show on a similar twisty road.



In fact the s2k is frequently thought of as having vicious snap oversteer nearly as bad as the Porsche 911 turbo of a decade ago...a car so oversteer happy that some Porsche dealers required potential owners to go through a driver's course to learn how to drive the 911 before they would sell one.

I've had my s2k for 7yrs and have been autoxing for 23yrs...and I would NEVER attempt to drive my car like in the above vid on the street. I have accidently gotten my car sidways on the street a few times...and once ended by ripping the nose of my car off.

We aren't trying to give you an un-warm welcome...you wanted to know what car would be best for the kind of fun you want to have on the street. As owners, we want you to be happy with your choice and not put yourself or others at risk. As owners, from our experience, we are trying to let you know that the s2k is probably not the best car for you.
Old 07-27-2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ghahat,Jul 27 2008, 03:18 PM
wow, it seems even the people who designed the s2k mean for it to slide....

Ooh, the way the rear is sliding... That's what rear wheel drive is all about!"

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry9393204

"This video has been posted before, but many of the newer owners probably haven't seen it yet.

If you want to know how Honda tested the original AP1 suspension, and how they intended the original car to be driven, watch the video."

so why are all these people here telling me that the s2000 is for "real drivers" and a "real sports car" and not for immature things like sliding
As you can see from the video, Gansan isn't trying to swing the tail out. He is an amazing driver and he is constantly correcting the slip angle to make sure the rear does NOT slide out. Ganson is no ordinary driver and not many can push the S to those limits and maintain perfect control.

Ap1s are extremely tail-happy and the rear-end can come around in a split second and bite the driver in the @ss. Like I said before, don't let others be your deciding factor. Go and test drive both and let us know how you feel.
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