andrewv

Hello everybody, I have had a forum account for a few months now but havent really posted anything. I now have some money saved up and I am thinking of selling my current 02 honda accord and combining it with my money saved up to buy a AP1 s2000 (most likely a 01).

I know this question has probably been asked before, and I know the ap1 oversteer more than ap2's, but do the 00-01's oversteer more than the 02-03 of the ap1's? Also what could I buy to help prevent the snap oversteer? I know going 70mph around a very sharp turn the car might oversteer but how bad is it? If you follow the speed limit or 5-10mph higher around a turns would it be ok?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I hope I can be apart of this community soon!

Thanks

hitVTEC

well, S2000s are really great cars!

they make a good daily driver,

good luck,!

charliec225

This is a terrible, ridiculous mentality to have prior to purchasing this car. Would this be your first RWD vehicle?

Learn to drive it, learn it's limits, drive appropriately for road and tire conditions on public roads. Don't assume you can fly into sharp turns at 70mph (I've never seen a sharp turn with a posted speed of 70mph - you'd probably be doing twice the speed limit).

People wreck this car trying to drive it straight. You can spin the car going under the speed limit if you're screwing around and unload the rear (braking while cornering, engaging VTEC, etc) or if the pavement is wet or your tires are bald.

If you want an S2000, buy it, love it, and learn to drive it correctly so you can continue loving it, rather than running it into a ditch and then being forced to make payments on a non-running pile of metal.

andrewv

[QUOTE=charliec225,Oct 6 2010, 09:13 AM]This is a terrible, ridiculous mentality to have prior to purchasing this car.

charliec225

It's never random, but you have to be aware of what causes it.

This guy lost control of the back end while traveling in a straight line because he caught a puddle (on an otherwise dry road) as he was accelerating - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=817984

Here's too much speed into a sharp turn - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=787878

Too much speed into corner again - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=263583

Lots more wrecked S2000's here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=645876 (definitely recommended reading).

Honestly, the S2000 is an amazing car. I have a huge grin every day I drive mine, and mine is my daily driver. I'd be heartbroken if it was ever wrecked - I know everyone else on here feels the same. If you want a high-strung minimalist roadster that is purely focused on driver enjoyment, there's no better car for the price.

Regarding the worry about oversteering - the driver is (in my opinion) always the cause of oversteer (as well as all sorts of other problems). Whether it is from not keeping good tires on the car, over-driving the car for the road conditions, or exceeding the limits of adhesion by speeding, braking, or accelerating, the person behind the wheel can almost always take credit. If you want a S2000, can afford the S2000, and trust yourself to drive an S2000, I say go for it

andrewv

[QUOTE=charliec225,Oct 6 2010, 10:07 AM] It's never random, but you have to be aware of what causes it.

This guy lost control of the back end while traveling in a straight line because he caught a puddle (on an otherwise dry road) as he was accelerating - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=817984

Here's too much speed into a sharp turn - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=787878

Too much speed into corner again - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=263583

Lots more wrecked S2000's here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=645876 (definitely recommended reading).

Honestly, the S2000 is an amazing car.

charliec225

I'm not sure about the "right" way, but the things I avoid are:

A) Going into a corner too fast and having to brake hard. Braking shifts the car weight forward and can cause a loss of traction in the rear.
B) Engaging VTEC during cornering - the sudden power increase can break traction.
C) Hard acceleration or cornering in questionable conditions (wet roads, sand, gravel, ice, cold tires, etc).

If I'm out for some spirited driving (which means good weather, good roads, good tires) the way I usually corner is to heel-toe downshift so that I'm near my desired corner entry speed and my engine RPMS are around 4000-5000 before turning in. Once I turn in, if I'm still a bit faster in the corner than I want, I'll let the speed scrub off (just from friction - no braking). Once I'm at the speed I want, I'll hold the speed and steering angle as steady as possible to limit disruptive driver inputs. As I'm exiting the corner, I'll begin rolling on throttle (sooner or later, depending on road conditions and angle of the turn).

It's probably not the fastest way around a corner, but it's fun and I haven't had to pull any heroic saves

hitVTEC

all of these comments are very good.
the quick responses alone should sell you on this forum and this car!

just don't be a jag off and show off if you cannot control the vehicle.

if you want to be an ass-hat, go buy a mustang and swap an RB into it and call yourself Drift King..

E MAN

I will be gettin an s2k soon too, good luck!~!