2001 AP1 Stock base dyno sheet
08-28-2009, 05:04 PM
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2001 AP1 Stock base dyno sheet
Hey ya'll, new to the site and just got a 2001 s2000 with 55K on it. Dyno is a dynojet 224x with temps between 75-80F, sealevel. car is completely stock as I got it. Only thing I did was change engine/tranny oil before I ran the baseline. Didnt do plugs or 60K tuneup. Planning on going NA with an ihe and a tune. Maybe 4.77gears as well.
And since we live in the land of lawyers...
Disclosure: Dyno sheet is for reference/informational purposes only. Not responsible for anguish/pain/shock if you dyno with unexpected results.
And since we live in the land of lawyers...
Disclosure: Dyno sheet is for reference/informational purposes only. Not responsible for anguish/pain/shock if you dyno with unexpected results.
08-29-2009, 05:55 AM
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Welcome!! Decent numbers for an early AP1.
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
08-29-2009, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by negcamber,Aug 29 2009, 08:55 AM
Welcome!! Decent numbers for an early AP1.
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
08-29-2009, 03:41 PM
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Thanks for the advice Neg. I'll keep that in mind. was thinking of getting the T1R 70-R dual sparrow and putting it on the dyno to confirm/debunk the dyno claims. wanted a new exhaust anyway for sound/weight savings. I'll skip on the header like u said and just go HFC/exhaust + tune and call it a day. Prob going to give emanage ultimate a glance since its less of a pain than Kpro and keeps OBDII.
08-29-2009, 08:12 PM
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My tuner recommended me from spending any money at all on any bolt ons for the S2K, to just save up for boost. Then again, I think they want me to buy their turbo kit when they release it this winter.
08-30-2009, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ek2s2k9k,Aug 29 2009, 06:41 PM
Prob going to give emanage ultimate a glance since its less of a pain than Kpro and keeps OBDII.
08-30-2009, 07:11 AM
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Welcome. Here's some data for comparison.
My 01 made around the same power couple years back with a test pipe:
Turns out at that time the car had 8 bent valves lol
I just dyno'd it last week with a short ram, test pipe, and kpro:
All I did was clean A/F down to 13.2 as best I could and left the timing maps alone. I'm sure there's another 5hp in there between that and new plugs.
Video:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l3A_GzXw40 [/media]
I am boosting the car very soon. I'm very happy I stayed away from N/A mods on this car. The power to dollar ratio is simply not worth it IMO.
Welcome!!
- The Spectacle
My 01 made around the same power couple years back with a test pipe:
Turns out at that time the car had 8 bent valves lol
I just dyno'd it last week with a short ram, test pipe, and kpro:
All I did was clean A/F down to 13.2 as best I could and left the timing maps alone. I'm sure there's another 5hp in there between that and new plugs.
Video:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l3A_GzXw40 [/media]
I am boosting the car very soon. I'm very happy I stayed away from N/A mods on this car. The power to dollar ratio is simply not worth it IMO.
Welcome!!
- The Spectacle
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08-30-2009, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by negcamber,Aug 29 2009, 02:55 PM
Welcome!! Decent numbers for an early AP1.
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
This may not want to be the advice you want to hear...but save your money on header....the only ones that do a thing are well over a grand. And unless you don't mind a really loud single exhaust, none of the exhausts out there will give good gains either...but even those singles are expensive. If you didn't live in CA, I'd say get a TP instead, but that's probably not smart out there.
If I were you, I would spend the money you were going to spend on h/e on a new ECU and a good tune instead. If you can get away with the AEM EMS in CA, then that is the cheapest route (make sure you get the newly released version 2). Otherwise, the Kpro is probably the best solution since it keeps ODBII...but it does require you to change some sensors including the crank sensor (which is a PIA).
Just some advice from someone who has spent about as much money as I would for a decent turbo kit in trying to get the most out of NA for the last 8yrs. And still only getting 215whp on a DynoDynamics (about 225-230whp on a DynoJet).
08-30-2009, 10:58 PM
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thanks for the constructive advice. the video confirms that I wont be going kpro. Ugh! I'll be rocking the same plx wideband and try to street tune myself before handing it off to a tuner.
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