jzz30

yea the J's demo car runs those crazzzzzy #'s and they are evenly matched to the Amuse demo car too

Hyper-X

Yeah, the demo cars do demonstrate the extremities of performance tuning sometimes and while I admire their need to press the performance edge, it detracks from the simple reality that on the public streets, there's a lot more at stake than just improving something like cornering ability by altering suspension geometry to something aggressive.

jzz30

all im saying is that they run those numbers and its good. nothing about good on streets...

Colin

considering how much grip modern sports cars have, there is little reason to look for that much more unless you're on the track. IMO there is no need for neg 4 on the street.

Hyper-X

It's amazing the people you get to talk with when you show up accidently to their club gatherings. I ran into someone with a Mazda Miata that drives on the streets with TOE OUT at the front, simply because he didn't like how the car behaved at the entry into a corner. I don't recognize his car nor his face so unless he started to autocross hardcore, I was shocked to hear his comments, but nevertheless made for a very interesting conversation. Unless of course, your name is Avery Tsue who delivers Spam Musubi and Aloha Tofu at 3am around Tantalus, trying not to spill his wife's Mocha Latte in the car while driving sideways on most of the straights.

It's like those guys in Civic Coupes trying to convince me that having that massive GT rear wing is necessary for their driving on the streets.

jzz30 is right tho, demo cars are just that. It's usually a sample of the focus of that company. We do need the extremities to demonstrate what the car is capable of doing better in terms of performance and appearance. It's when we push the limits that the entire industry tend to grow along side with it.

jzz30

one of our guys at the shop runs toe out, but he regularly autoX's and superlaps, nor does he have the money to allign his car every other week. but it makes turn in a bit quicker but the quirk to that is that corner exit becomes peaky. (same principals with RC cars hehe)

Colin

[QUOTE=Hyper-X,Nov 3 2005, 07:07 PM] jzz30 is right tho, demo cars are just that.

jzz30

yea thats true he shouldnt need it for the streets unless he delivers aloha tofu at 3am up tantalus and needs to be up and down in 6 minuites

Colin

... Or if he routinely takes the Halawa off-ramp sweeper at 60+ mph!






Ouch, low blow!

808style

oooooooh that's dirty...