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08-21-2024, 06:11 AM
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I have a question about setting the timing on my car. I think I have a problem.
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
08-21-2024, 06:12 AM
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OH... Extra thanks to Steve for the hookup on the torque wrench. That thing made torquing down the head bolts a dream. I do not think I would want to do it any other way! 
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Gilly_S2KFreak (08-21-2024)
08-21-2024, 06:15 AM
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I should add that I can turn the crank freely and watch the idler gear spin. I do not think the chain is bound up at all and I am as certain as I can be that it is properly riding on the crank gear.
08-21-2024, 06:18 AM
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sam_spider (08-21-2024)
08-21-2024, 06:25 AM
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I have a question about setting the timing on my car. I think I have a problem.
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
08-21-2024, 06:25 AM
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I have a question about setting the timing on my car. I think I have a problem.
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
The engine is more or less put back together - timing cover is on, the oil pan is on and I reinstalled the head. I am as certain as I can be that I accurately lined up the keyway on the crank shaft with the mark on the block and that I lined up the single black link with the dot on the crank shaft gear before I buttoned everything up. I installed the cam idler gear in the head but cannot get it to line up with the timing marks on the crank pulley and timing cover if I align the "black links" on the timing chain with the dot on the cam idler gear.
What I think happened is that the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear while I was installing the rest of the bits - most likely the head. My question is whether or not it matters. Top-dead-center is top-dead-center, right? I identify that with the marks on the crank pulley and the timing cover and it doesn't matter where the "black links" are, right?
It's an easy thing to line up the ticks on the crank pulley with the mark on the timing cover and align the two "hash" marks on the cam idler gear with the lip of the head. That's all I really need, right? The chain lining up would be a bonus but does it really matter?
08-21-2024, 06:27 AM
#588
I'm scared...Liz is kicking the tires on this one--test drove it last night.
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sam_spider (08-21-2024)
08-21-2024, 06:45 AM
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08-21-2024, 06:47 AM
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I think what happened is the chain slipped on the crank shaft gear somewhere while I was installing the head or the timing cover. That damn chain flops all over the place and there isn't much to keep it on the crank gear while you are fighting with it.