S2000 Track Day: Carolina Motorsports Park
07-05-2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Jul 5 2005, 06:23 PM
BTW, Ate Super Blue and Ate Gold are the same thing- only different colors to aid in knowing when a compete flush has been achieved.
Plus, when you try to switch back to a gold color it takes tons of it to completely flush the blue out of the system. 1 year and about 5 flushes later I was still getting a little bit of blue tint out of the lines last time I used it. 
Mike
07-05-2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mts,Jul 5 2005, 10:40 AM
ATE is good stuff, but I hate the blue color. It seemed like every time I went to tech, the first words were "you need to change your fluid"......no, it's fresh, it's blue. Plus, when you try to switch back to a gold color it takes tons of it to completely flush the blue out of the system. 1 year and about 5 flushes later I was still getting a little bit of blue tint out of the lines last time I used it.
Mike
Plus, when you try to switch back to a gold color it takes tons of it to completely flush the blue out of the system. 1 year and about 5 flushes later I was still getting a little bit of blue tint out of the lines last time I used it. Mike
07-05-2005, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Jul 5 2005, 10:23 AM
DOT 5 = 
07-05-2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mts,Jul 5 2005, 09:38 AM
Joe,
Do you know what time the track opens/what time you plan on cars heading out on the track yet? You may have already posted this info and I skipped right past it.
Thanks,
Mike
Do you know what time the track opens/what time you plan on cars heading out on the track yet? You may have already posted this info and I skipped right past it.
Thanks,
Mike
07-05-2005, 01:17 PM
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Just FYI, I found this on DOT5. yeah, definitely not good for our cars. Stick with a DOT4.
DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids are called polyglycol fluids for the principal compounds used in their manufacture. DOT 5 fluids are all silicone based because only silicone fluid can meet the DOT 5 specs. No vehicle manufacturer, however, recommends DOT 5 fluid for use in its brake systems. Although all three fluid grades are compatible, they don't really combine if mixed together in a system. Therefore, the best general rule is to use the fluid type recommended by the carmaker, and not to mix fluid types in a system.
CAUTION: Do not use silicone DOT 5 fluid in an antilock brake system. Operating efficiency will be reduced.
Silicone DOT 5 fluid has some other characteristics that you should beware of. Silicone fluid compresses slightly under pressure, which can cause a slightly spongy brake pedal feel. Silicone fluid also attracts air more than polyglycol fluid does, which makes brake bleeding harder. It also tends to vaporize slightly just below its boiling point; and it will aerate from prolonged vibration. All of these factors mean that DOT 5 silicone fluid should never be used in an antilock brake system.
DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids are called polyglycol fluids for the principal compounds used in their manufacture. DOT 5 fluids are all silicone based because only silicone fluid can meet the DOT 5 specs. No vehicle manufacturer, however, recommends DOT 5 fluid for use in its brake systems. Although all three fluid grades are compatible, they don't really combine if mixed together in a system. Therefore, the best general rule is to use the fluid type recommended by the carmaker, and not to mix fluid types in a system.
CAUTION: Do not use silicone DOT 5 fluid in an antilock brake system. Operating efficiency will be reduced.
Silicone DOT 5 fluid has some other characteristics that you should beware of. Silicone fluid compresses slightly under pressure, which can cause a slightly spongy brake pedal feel. Silicone fluid also attracts air more than polyglycol fluid does, which makes brake bleeding harder. It also tends to vaporize slightly just below its boiling point; and it will aerate from prolonged vibration. All of these factors mean that DOT 5 silicone fluid should never be used in an antilock brake system.
07-05-2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SC_Highlander,Jul 5 2005, 01:13 PM
Strange. I usually get, "Ahh, ATE fluid, eh." 
I have had no problems doing complete flushes between ATE blue and ATE gold (type 200). In either case a complete flush takes under a quart and works just fine for me on the track. 
I have had no problems doing complete flushes between ATE blue and ATE gold (type 200). In either case a complete flush takes under a quart and works just fine for me on the track. Anyway, there will be a parade lap and we might even walk the course before we begin. All novice or trackers with little or no track time will have to have a ride along instructor with them until they are cleared to run by themselves.
07-06-2005, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyclon36,Jun 30 2005, 03:09 PM
Excellent. Updating the first post right now.
Ezop, Doctor T will send you a refund for your deposit.
Ezop, Doctor T will send you a refund for your deposit.
07-06-2005, 12:26 PM
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If anyone is going to be swapping their brake pads at the track (or at the hotel the night before), let me know. I'd like to see what's involved firsthand.
In fact, if anyone will be doing anything mechanical, I may want to check it out. I'm trying to increase my mechanical know-how (which is basically zero).
In fact, if anyone will be doing anything mechanical, I may want to check it out. I'm trying to increase my mechanical know-how (which is basically zero).