Ricky_Flowers_

Get rid of the banquet, or make it optional. If it cannot be made optional, fine, but be prepared to continue dealing with this problem. This is pretty much my only rub with this whole deal. There is absolutely zero way I can justify eating undercooked chicken cutlets for 37 dollars, let alone paying for a +1 to eat this when I know I can ruin dinner for considerably less than what it's costing me here.

Seriously though, everything else is great, y'all are doin' a great job.

kgf3076

No, nothingi is off. Until I can confirm with Fontana that the AAA rate is lower, nothing changes. IF (and that's a BIG IF) Fontana says that the AAA rates are indeed lower, than I will ask that the room rates be adjusted. Until I can talk to Fontana, nothing changes. To quote myself:
"And now that I have found out that there are lower rates available via AAA, I have asked that the rates for the Dragon meets be modified. Thanks for letting me know." Unfortunately, the lower rates are for cabins which are NOT part of the Dragon block. I can't do anything about that. Sorry, wish I could but I can't. I can ask, but I can't guarantee.
Unfortunately (for me) when I typed the original message to CO's and Mods, I managed to leave out GROUP RATE from the line about reservations. I apologized for that and some people may not have known that but now you do.
JUST SO YOU KNOW: The group rates are only available IF you register. This has always been the policy and will continue to be the policy. If you don't register as part of the group, you DO NOT get the group rate. Tres simple.

SCole1989

Unfortunately (for me) when I typed the original message to CO's and Mods, I managed to leave out GROUP RATE from the line about reservations. I apologized for that and some people may not have known that but now you do.


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"I don't want anybody to drive all that wayjust to find out they don't have a room"

Habitforming

Just curious - what would you replace it with? The banquet is the one time that we have to get the whole group together; recognize those members that have travelled the farthest, or participated the longest; give out raffle prizes; and enjoy others' videos & photos from the weekend.

I agree we pay too much per person for what is typically sub-par food. But unfortunately our hands are tied as Fontana won't allow outside food vendors, and there is nowhere else nearby to get everyone together under one roof. Would everyone be willing to drive 1 hr to alcoa or 45 minutes to some large restaurant in Maryville for a saturday night get together?

Plus, probably about $10 of that is for the room, tables, chairs, projector, PA system, etc. So it's only $27 for undercooked chicken

kgf3076

Too bad those "under-coked chicken cutlets" aren't on the menu. I'll order them just for you, Ricky. As a matter of fact, there has never been anything resembling under-cooked chicken cutlets at any banquet that I have EVER planned. If I won't eat it, I damned sure won't order it for some of my best friends. Sure you can eat for less. McDonalds will be happy to give you flash frozen swill for $10 and change. I'm not saying that the food at Fontana is gourmet (even though I have had some really good meals there), but I certainly never heard any complaints about the food the last two events. (Well, Sharon was a bit perturbed that someone took her picture while she was eating cannoli )

SCole1989

To be honest, I'm tired of all the lies and cover ups. Ken was kind enough to show the cost breakdown which eased a lot of people's minds and put to bed any accusations of people pocketing money. But like I said, just tired of all the lies and cover ups. Everything is out in the open now and everyone can choose what they want to do.




If you want to register, go for it. If not, that's cool too. If you have the ability to use AAA, more power to you.

kgf3076

Unfortunately (for me) when I typed the original message to CO's and Mods, I managed to leave out GROUP RATE from the line about reservations. I apologized for that and some people may not have known that but now you do.


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"I don't want anybody to drive all that wayjust to find out they don't have a room"

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And here is what I wrote afterwards.

I inadvertently left out a word on the original post and so have deleted the list because I feel it was divisive and led to some misunderstanding. Reservations will (obviously) not be canceled, however, the group discount will not apply as people who haven't registered are not part of the group. This has always been the policy and I hope you understand why it's necessary. Please let your people know. I'm looking for ways to make the event less expensive and so I'd like any suggestions you may have. Suggestions (and active participation) are always welcomed, always have been and, as long as I have anything to do with it, always will be.

-ken

Mack21

27k posts and no stars... What the heck is wrong with people.....

SCole1989

Unfortunately (for me) when I typed the original message to CO's and Mods, I managed to leave out GROUP RATE from the line about reservations. I apologized for that and some people may not have known that but now you do.


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"I don't want anybody to drive all that wayjust to find out they don't have a room"

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And here is what I wrote afterwards.

I inadvertently left out a word on the original post and so have deleted the list because I feel it was divisive and led to some misunderstanding. Reservations will (obviously) not be canceled, however, the group discount will not apply as people who haven't registered are not part of the group. This has always been the policy and I hope you understand why it's necessary. Please let your people know. I'm looking for ways to make the event less expensive and so I'd like any suggestions you may have. Suggestions (and active participation) are always welcomed, always have been and, as long as I have anything to do with it, always will be.

-ken
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I really hate to keep this going but there is a difference in leaving out the discount and "I don't want anybody to drive all that way and find out they don't have a room."

And while we're at it I noticed another piece. Your original post had a different message at the bottom (see attached) than it did when I clicked to reply. Real nice, guy.

Ricky_Flowers_

My food was undercooked. I don't care. Maybe I was an isolated case, it's no big deal. I went and got another one, that fixed the problem.

I'm not trying to call anyone out, I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, but there absolutely has to be a way to get the group together on Saturday night without renting out a banquet room. How about we set up a projection screen outside, trade stories, and barbecue in the afternoon when it's not so hot out? Burgers/hot dogs for everyone, bring your own beer, whatever. We could set up the speakers and projection equipment that would have otherwise been used in a banquet hall outdoors. If the idea all along was to say that we're having a "banquet" or whatever, fine, but if it's not then why don't we just move the festivities outside? Hell, I'll even help set up.

Also, the logo design: why don't we make it user-submitted? We have so much traffic on this sub-forum from the regulars that we could have a few design submissions and have a vote before the deadline to make the shirts and magnets. I feel like this will help with any transparency issues, and will definitely increase orders for RTD merchandise going forward. Again, I will happily submit a design and organize the voting process if it at all helps you moving forward.

Bottom line, this is an issue that we probably ought to try and change for NEXT year, and that won't happen unless a discussion is opened.