Originally Posted by racer chick' date='Feb 10 2005, 05:50 PM

umm what does that have to do with relationships?

lorie, how on earth are you ever going to know if a guy really wanted you, noticed you, was intrigued by you from the beginning, if you went up and talked to him first?
let's play out a scenario... you're at a party, you see a guy across the room, you wait for him all night to notice you and he doesn't. you decide what the heck, it's the year 2005, i'll approach him. so you go up and say hi, you dance a bit, you exchange numebrs, blah blah blah..
if he noticed you, and was interested, he would have come up to you. guys are not shy, if they want something bad enough, they'll go after it.
so lets say you are in a relationship with this guy, six months down the line, he becomes a little distant, you start growing insecure and wondering, does he still care about you? does he still love you? is he dating someone else? you will always be insecure because you don't know if he REALLY wanted to talk to you taht first night... why put urself in that situation? if he wants you, he can pursue you. i can go into so much more detail, but that's just the tip of hte iceberg..

Originally Posted by AZWILDCATS' date='Feb 10 2005, 03:10 PM

Yes, it does RC. If you recall, I said that people play games because they are insecure. Looks play a big part in one's security. Looks and security play a big part in Sex. Sex plays a big part in relationships.

It is all intertwined.

Originally Posted by racer chick' date='Feb 10 2005, 06:11 PM

hey pope, we can have a drink together, i'll spend a couple hours with you tonight, then i'll go home leaving you with thoughts of what my lips must taste like, or what my silky hair feels like... you can dream about me all night long... then in a week, i'll accept a date with you, we'll watch a movie, have dinner... but i'll still leave you wanting more and longing for me... then in a few months, you'll have worked so hard to get me, that you'll love me and think i'm the greatest woman to walk the earth.. and we can have a healthy normal relationship where we are equally in love, and have mutual respect for each other...

Originally Posted by p0pe' date='Feb 10 2005, 03:15 PM

All I gotta say is that once you have sex, a lot of things change.

Originally Posted by racer chick' date='Feb 10 2005, 06:12 PM

sex doesn't play anything in a relationship. my boyfriend and i are both virgins.

and if you recall, i said insecurity doens't have anything to do with games.

Originally Posted by AZWILDCATS' date='Feb 10 2005, 03:17 PM

Maybe not in the initial stages... but it does ultimately. There is more to a relationship than just the courting... Sex is only 10% of a relationship until there is a problem in that area... then it becomes 90%.

Originally Posted by racer chick' date='Feb 10 2005, 06:12 PM

sex doesn't play anything in a relationship. my boyfriend and i are both virgins.

and if you recall, i said insecurity doens't have anything to do with games.