jml

The advantage of speaking French too.. lol

jml

Well i did buy the motor home cash last week... the interest rates being what they are.

phil121081

30k hot hatches?

I bet less than 10% are bought cash.

s2k4tony

Just like Toyota with the '86, massively overpriced launch prices always occur. Wait until the deal is under £25k, it becomes a bit more like it. Still ,that wing though.

The ordinary Civic has disastrous lines, its busy, its all over the place. And a mahoosive fat elongated ass. BY far, the ugliest hatch i've seen since the.. the..Maestro or something!

I still say - sack the designers. Completely out of touch with its heritage and more in tune with trilby wearing coffin dodgers. Just when you thought Honda's couldn't get any worse.

It will no doubt, be an absolute treat to see what the supposed new S2000 will look like - if it ever surfaces. Then again - they're busy wasting millions in F1 right now. When its petrol head fans await to be treated to a beautiful drivers car.

cheshire_carper

Oh yes, I agree re sector. The sector that aspire to those may have less cash but who knows. I mean that people do pay cash. You said 'who walks into a showroom and puts 30k cash down', I am saying I did that thrice last year so people do it; admittedly not showrooms, one was.

jml

What has the one to do with the other ?

phil121081

back to the R, apparently 98+ ron fuel only, someone on the forum had a reply from VW saying anything less may invalidate warranty?

I've not checked, but the manual suggests 95 is ok.

I've whacked 98 in it anyway (well tesco 99), always found the S achieved higher mpg on 98, the odd ocassion I splashed some 95 in there it was noticeable.

Nottm_S2

I dont see brands changing that much, i guess Honda have declined over 20 years and over a lifetime Skoda have improved rather a lot (bar the sunroof seals) but i had a Citroen once and it was made of Papier-mâché as you might expect. We had another as a lease and it was a great ride (comfort wise) but also fragile. My brother has a renno which is a baked bean can of a car so it's not like it's just prejudice, it's based on experience first hand.

I have nothing against France, amazing country, but all the french cars i have experienced have been pretty shat

and no, i dont yearn for a 205 gti

EDIT - i came on here to post this

Mclaren 570s £995pm with £39,500 down and optional balloon of £90,248 according to Auto Express. ha ha

i want to like the Renno but we looked at these a couple of years back and again, build quality wasnt up to it imo

anyway back OT, BMW, Merc and VW must have a masterplan and Honda et al arent buying it given the disparity i'll keep admitting the Golf is a no brainer

jml

Or too much stock they have to peddle ?

Nottm_S2

that thought crossed my mind but would they keep churning out the cars for this long? i would expect short availability of great deals on that basis unless they build fields full of cars

they made 3.3bn euros in the first quarter so are doing something right