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Old 07-29-2011, 04:27 AM
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:35 AM
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He's right - at least in areas of light congestion - traffic lights in Milton Keynes are useless as everyone knows how to use roundabouts, equally replacing all the traffic lights in say Northampton with roundabouts would be equally useless - no one would have a bloody clue what to do.

Congestion eases as people end up having to use their brains and interact with the roads and the other people on it.
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No, he's wrong and I suspect he hasn't taken his medication today

When traffic signals fail and traffic is reasonably heavy (read as when it matters: when the majority of people are travelling to or from work, daytime, etc.)

It creates gridlock; I know, I deal with it

It also creates confusion, bad tempers, distruption to everyones day and pisses people off

I am talking about busy roads and town/ city centres, it doesn't matter so much elsewhere but is still a safety issue

Roundabouts are another issue altogether
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ
The US also allow turning left against a red signal but we have a fundamentally different roads system here. And don't forget the speed limit in the US is 55 MPH.
The US permits drivers to turn right at a red light...left would be suicidal.

Just thought I'd add that in there for a little clarity...wouldn't want this place turning into wikipedia
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Originally Posted by loftust
Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ' timestamp='1311938851' post='20827191
The US also allow turning left against a red signal but we have a fundamentally different roads system here. And don't forget the speed limit in the US is 55 MPH.
The US permits drivers to turn right at a red light...left would be suicidal.

Just thought I'd add that in there for a little clarity...wouldn't want this place turning into wikipedia
My mistake (just don't tell gad)
Old 07-29-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ
No, he's wrong and I suspect he hasn't taken his medication today

When traffic signals fail and traffic is reasonably heavy (read as when it matters: when the majority of people are travelling to or from work, daytime, etc.)

It creates gridlock; I know, I deal with it
You post like you have detailed knowledge, so care to back that up with facts? if you have any.

Or you could read about what they tried where i used to live and experienced first hand

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-london-ealing
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Ah...the media...that reliable source of information

Whatever your thoughts on the subject, it's not going to happen. People can't possibly make sensible decisions for themselves without putting other people's lives at risk.
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
so, undertaking in the US (and maybe more places) - works fine there but wouldn't work here
reducing road markings - works fine in Holland but wouldn't work here
no speed limit - works fine on the Autobahn but wouldn't work here

what would work here?

speed cameras

right
Nothing.

As we can see from the mentality displayed here Pete,
we have been very effectively conditioned as a nation to be compliant and unquestioning.

Probably we are now Europes most anal nation, and one more reason the country is on its arse.
Its echoed every day by the elf 'n' safety brigade - "You are thick so we will have to think for you"

Those who cant think fall back to wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by m1bjr
we have been very effectively conditioned as a nation to be compliant and unquestioning.
Compliance with the law isn't a bad thing...it prevents alot of crimes, such as murder, and rape. (I am well aware this still goes on, but predict more occurrences if there weren't laws)

Originally Posted by m1bjr
Its echoed every day by the elf 'n' safety brigade - "You are thick so we will think for you"
I don't like the H&S culture either. I do take some comfort in that there's less chance of someone killing me through their own actions however.
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ
^^^ What a ridiculous suggestion

More collisions occur at junctions than (working) traffic lights

People have difficulty staying within the markings at the best of times, it would resemble something from the "Wacky Races", you can be Dick Dastardly

Confusion reigns when road makings are removed, it may make people slower but not necessarily safer

It would just add to the number of low speed "accidents"


so slower isn't necessarily safer?

I'm glad we've agreed that

wouldn't it also be better to have more low speed accidents, eliminating loss of life and serious injury, than fewer but more serious ones?


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