Just got left for dead by a focus ST!
05-02-2014, 10:39 PM
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There's a green one around here, H13ULK is the plate and i suspect it pops as much fuel out the back as it burns but my god does it sound nice and goes even better.
S2000 is a bit of a grandfather clock in the current world of things.
But then as i said to the chav in the Astra VXR Nurburging white special black wheel V++++ editon at the pumps the other night, yep yours is faster but your roof is stuck in place
S2000 is a bit of a grandfather clock in the current world of things.
But then as i said to the chav in the Astra VXR Nurburging white special black wheel V++++ editon at the pumps the other night, yep yours is faster but your roof is stuck in place
05-02-2014, 10:57 PM
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:Alright gents title says it all really,
Was driving round this evening in my s
and this st came very close to my arse
so guessed he wanted a little play.
So went down the slip road onto the bypass and put my foot down
at first i gained a little on it, then stayed about the same for a few seconds
then as got to about 60-70 he just came right up my arse again then flew straight passed me.
Now i know the standard 225ST are quite a bit slower to 60.
And i know stage one remap on them takes them to 270. stage 2 290 & stage 3 300+
Pretty sure it wasn't stage one because think they'd be neck and neck with the weight differences.
But yeah pretty shocked at how quickly it left me.
Any ideas on what you reckon it would be running?
I had my roof down, not sure if that would have affected my s's acceleration or not,
My s is also standard apart from a skunk2.
05-03-2014, 12:49 AM
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Just to clear up a misconception. Engine torque figures on their own have nothing whatsoever to do with acceleration. You have to take into account rpms (and also gearing)
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
05-03-2014, 01:39 AM
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I agree on the fun/corners argument and straightline is pretty futile really - but - it is nice to have a bit of poke
However, this ST was rapid in both straight and corners. Was incredibly quick and that was against one of the fastest 4wds you can spend cash on. It was an orange rocket
However, this ST was rapid in both straight and corners. Was incredibly quick and that was against one of the fastest 4wds you can spend cash on. It was an orange rocket
05-03-2014, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CurtMachineHead' timestamp='1399063921' post='23141593
:Alright gents title says it all really,
Was driving round this evening in my s
and this st came very close to my arse
so guessed he wanted a little play.
So went down the slip road onto the bypass and put my foot down
at first i gained a little on it, then stayed about the same for a few seconds
then as got to about 60-70 he just came right up my arse again then flew straight passed me.
Now i know the standard 225ST are quite a bit slower to 60.
And i know stage one remap on them takes them to 270. stage 2 290 & stage 3 300+
Pretty sure it wasn't stage one because think they'd be neck and neck with the weight differences.
But yeah pretty shocked at how quickly it left me.
Any ideas on what you reckon it would be running?
I had my roof down, not sure if that would have affected my s's acceleration or not,
My s is also standard apart from a skunk2.
Just to clear up a misconception. Engine torque figures on their own have nothing whatsoever to do with acceleration. You have to take into account rpms (and also gearing)
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
I agree on the fun/corners argument and straightline is pretty futile really - but - it is nice to have a bit of poke
However, this ST was rapid in both straight and corners. Was incredibly quick and that was against one of the fastest 4wds you can spend cash on. It was an orange rocket
However, this ST was rapid in both straight and corners. Was incredibly quick and that was against one of the fastest 4wds you can spend cash on. It was an orange rocket
05-03-2014, 11:14 AM
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Just to clear up a misconception. Engine torque figures on their own have nothing whatsoever to do with acceleration. You have to take into account rpms (and also gearing)
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
Acceleration is proportional to the engine's power output (which is torque x rpm). See my signature for a good explanation of it all.
Think about it, an S2000 with its 153lbft can out accelerate many diesel cars which have much higher torque figures because it has shorter gearing.
In a drag race as described above, both engines will be using their best power range, so torque figures matter even less. The Focus had been tuned to make more power, so it won. It's not really rocket science.
As Notts said, learn to make it go faster round corners (you don't need to add any bits to the car to do this) which is much more fun.
Far easier to have a car in which you can simply nail the throttle in a straight line with one hand on the wrong side of the wheel at any speed whilst wearing an inane leer.
05-03-2014, 11:31 PM
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There's a green one around here, H13ULK is the plate and i suspect it pops as much fuel out the back as it burns but my god does it sound nice and goes even better.
S2000 is a bit of a grandfather clock in the current world of things.
But then as i said to the chav in the Astra VXR Nurburging white special black wheel V++++ editon at the pumps the other night, yep yours is faster but your roof is stuck in place
S2000 is a bit of a grandfather clock in the current world of things.
But then as i said to the chav in the Astra VXR Nurburging white special black wheel V++++ editon at the pumps the other night, yep yours is faster but your roof is stuck in place