m1bjr

I rolled an old transit in the lanes doing just as you did there.
Trying to quickly get a degree of 'oppo' on an old Transit steering box is. erm, tricky!
After the third increasing pendulum I buried the wing in the bank and flopped on my side LOL!

unclefester

Noticed this driving home last night, M1 was chocka so I went off on the A5 at Daventry. Very very careful as you could see the frost patches where it had been shaded by trees all day, same thing on the M18 coming through Doncaster .... driving this might not have made me a better driver but it does make you far more aware of the road conditions you'd have blissfully ignored before.

lovegroova

Watching the road surface is becoming a lost art. Modern cars ride so well that most drivers seem to ignore things like potholes, puddles and so on.

Having had cars with less than perfect ride quality over the years has made me far more aware of what's going on, or at least I like to think so.

Of course, if you're in Buckinghamshire and they've turned off the streetlights to save the planet, and also not bothered to grit the roads, it can make things interesting to say the least.

Nick Graves

I remember that; the FIAT 124 was a masterpiece in its day, but the worm & roller steering was just too damned slow. Dial in a roll-oversteer tendency beyond the (considerable) limit and it was just impossible to catch.

Rack & Pinion please, Carol...

motogp1

Ride a bike with frost and snow on the ground you soon learn

Nick Graves

...let alone wet drain covers, tramlines, horse shit, gravel...